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To: 45Auto
Just curious. What parts did you consider to 'off the wall?'
17 posted on 12/05/2003 12:28:39 PM PST by Badray (Molon Labe!)
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To: Badray
Well, I think this line is a little over the top:

"When there is such a large mass that does not care, no law will save Liberty from indifference or ignorance or the pursuit of hedonism and love in the wrong places—the bottom of a bottle, at an ATM, between another woman’s legs, at the point of a needle, at the race track, at the card tables. Sadly, some people have taken their unfettered “pursuit of happiness” too far with their reckless self-destruction."

These things may be morally reprehensible, and they may represent "Libertin-ism" more than they do "Liberty", but one man's poison is another man's sacrament, and the Constitution, although written by men of moral courage, no more prevents self-destructive behavior than it does the basic right to own arms.

19 posted on 12/05/2003 12:36:24 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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To: Badray
Of course, then there's this little gem from one of the guys who actually wrote the Constitution:

"Revolutions like this have happened in almost every country in Europe: similar examples are to be found in ancient Greece and ancient Rome: instances of the people losing their liberty by their own carelessness and the ambition of a few. We are cautioned…against faction and turbulence: I acknowledge that licentiousness is dangerous, and that it ought to be provided against: I acknowledge also the new form of Government may effectually prevent it: Yet, there is another thing it will as effectually do: it will oppress and ruin the people…I am not well versed in history, but I will submit to your recollection whether liberty has been destroyed most often by the licentiousness of the people or by the tyranny of rulers? I imagine, Sir, you will find the balance on the side of tyranny!" - Patrick Henry

22 posted on 12/05/2003 1:01:15 PM PST by 45Auto (Big holes are (almost) always better.)
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