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Leftist 9th Circuit Court Claims It's Legal to Abet Terrorists
NewsMax ^ | 12/4/03 | Wires

Posted on 12/04/2003 7:58:32 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

In a potential blow to the Bush administration's legal strategy in the war on terror, a federal appeals court has overturned part of a sweeping law the government has increasingly used to arrest or prosecute suspected terrorists.

The decision Wednesday by the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals involves a 1996 terrorism law that outlaws financial assistance or "material support" to organizations classified as terrorist by the State Department.

The court struck down part of the law, ruling that it is unconstitutional to punish people, sometimes with life in prison, for providing "training" or "personnel" to a terror group.

Increasingly, the charge of choice for prosecutors in the war on terrorism is that someone provided some form of material support to terror groups. The decision Wednesday means that for the first time, part of that strategy has been declared unconstitutional by a federal appeals court.

The ruling requires the government to prove that defendants knew their activities, such as donating money to outlawed groups, were actually contributing to acts of terror.

The 'Bake Sale' Theory

"According to the government's interpretation ... a woman who buys cookies from a bake sale outside of her grocery store to support displaced Kurdish refugees to find new homes could be held liable," Judge Harry Pregerson wrote in the 2-1 decision.

In addition, the court wrote that it was unconstitutional to criminalize donations of personnel or training, which fall under the "material support" section of the law, because that "blurs the line between protected expression and unprotected expression."

The court ruled in a case involving an organization's efforts to lobby Congress on behalf of groups on the terrorist watch list. The court ruled that Humanitarian Law Project could legally lobby Congress and provide other non-financial assistance to Kurdistan Workers Party in Turkey.

The Bush administration had argued that donating "personnel" on behalf of Kurdistan Workers Party violated the 1996 law and amounted to aiding terrorism.

The 1996 law has been used to prosecute high-profile suspects including accused British arms trafficker Hemant Lakhan, who was arrested in New Jersey and charged in August with providing material support in an alleged missile-smuggling plot.

Great News for al-Qaida

Another case involved six Americans of Yemeni descent who were convicted under the law of providing "material support" to al-Qaida. Authorities described the six, who lived just blocks apart in Lackawanna, N.Y., as a sleeper cell awaiting orders from Osama bin Laden's network.

The first of the six, who attended an al-Qaida training camp and met bin Laden shortly before the Sept. 11 terror attacks, received 10 years in prison Wednesday, a sentence Attorney General John Ashcroft said "sends a clear message that the United States will seek strong penalties for those who provide material support to our terrorist enemies."

The Lackawanna case isn't governed by the 9th Circuit. Still, if it survives a Supreme Court appeal, Wednesday's decision in San Francisco could be a blow to Ashcroft's prosecution of that and other cases in the war on terror.

While the court did not strike down the "material support" provision entirely, Georgetown University Law Center professor David Cole said prosecutions under the provision were now suspect.

Ashcroft Attacked for Law Passed by Clinton

The decision, Cole said, "declares unconstitutional one of the linchpins of the Ashcroft domestic anti-terrorism strategy." The law in question was adopted by Congress after the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.

The Justice Department was not immediately prepared to say how it will respond. The government has weeks to decide whether to appeal before the decision becomes law.

"We are reviewing the decision, and will have no further comment at this time," said Charles Miller, a department spokesman.



TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; pkk; terrorists; traitors
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1 posted on 12/04/2003 7:58:38 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
There will likely be a re-hearing of the case by a larger panel of the 9th Circuit, as in the California recall case. The 9th Circuit isn't always insane
2 posted on 12/04/2003 8:01:10 AM PST by BCrago66
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To: BCrago66
Who were the Judges who mad the ruling?
3 posted on 12/04/2003 8:03:21 AM PST by Dog (George W. Bush - - - -" Avenger of the Bones..")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Judge Harry Pregerson wrote in the 2-1 decision.

A 2-1 decision.

Come on!!!!

4 posted on 12/04/2003 8:03:54 AM PST by OXENinFLA (Islam is like a new Communist infestation akin to what McCarthy exposed.)
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection; All
See related article and thread.
5 posted on 12/04/2003 8:04:39 AM PST by dighton
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To: OXENinFLA
Judge Harry Pregerson is as far left as you can go.....
6 posted on 12/04/2003 8:12:28 AM PST by Dog (George W. Bush - - - -" Avenger of the Bones..")
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
INTREP - JUDICIAL TRYANNY ALERT
7 posted on 12/04/2003 8:25:51 AM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
WHile some parts of the ruling I disagree with, the "Bake Sale" argument is pretty compelling. There's a big difference between knowlingly supporting a terror group and being tricked into supporting them. Should Ryder be held liable for renting Tim McVeigh a van? Of course not. Ryder had no idea McVeigh would use it in a terrorist attack. Punishing someone for unknowingly supporting a terror outfit is like punishing gun manufacturers ans sellers for the crimes committed with their products.
8 posted on 12/04/2003 8:26:33 AM PST by bobjam
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Time for Congress to limit their jurisidiction to Patent Law.
9 posted on 12/04/2003 8:27:03 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The law was written too broadly (see the "bake sale" argument/example).

There's no reason why Congress and/or the Justice Dept can't draft a similar law that's more narrowly tailored or revise this one and still accomplish the same goals.

10 posted on 12/04/2003 8:31:09 AM PST by gdani
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To: bobjam
While some parts of the ruling I disagree with, the "Bake Sale" argument is pretty compelling. There's a big difference between knowlingly supporting a terror group and being tricked into supporting them. Should Ryder be held liable for renting Tim McVeigh a van? Of course not. Ryder had no idea McVeigh would use it in a terrorist attack. Punishing someone for unknowingly supporting a terror outfit is like punishing gun manufacturers ans sellers for the crimes committed with their products.

***DING DING DING*** No more calls; we have a winner.

The key problem with the law is its failure to require a clear element of criminal knowledge and intent.

11 posted on 12/04/2003 8:39:24 AM PST by steve-b
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To: gdani
Here's the case: http://www.ca9.uscourts.gov/ca9/newopinions.nsf/044DE357BD726D7288256DF10063BDE4/$file/0255082.pdf?openelement

12 posted on 12/04/2003 8:41:31 AM PST by BCrago66
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals is the poster child of why the logjam on judicial confirmations needs to be taken care of in the US Senate.
13 posted on 12/04/2003 8:48:39 AM PST by RicocheT
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To: BCrago66
The 9th Circuit isn't always insane.

No, but that's the way to bet...

14 posted on 12/04/2003 8:56:32 AM PST by Doug Loss
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To: Dog
Isn't this the circuit we are being firewalled on?
15 posted on 12/04/2003 8:57:26 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Ninth Circuit Court rules that individuals have no Constitutional right to keep and bear arms.

The Ninth Circuit Court also rules that it is unconstitutional to punish people for providing training or personnel to a terror group.

The United States Supreme Court refuses to review the rulings of the Ninth Circuit Court.

If my truck's engine ran like America's Federal courts, I'd pull it out and rebuild it.

16 posted on 12/04/2003 9:02:51 AM PST by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: seamole
NOTE THAT THIS A 1996 (KLINTON) LAW.
18 posted on 12/04/2003 9:05:15 AM PST by expatpat
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
"The Justice Department was not immediately prepared to say how it will respond. The government has weeks to decide whether to appeal before the decision becomes law."

The Courts are out of control. Once again, legislating from the bench.

The only solutuon is Juridical Nullification (the Act of the Executive and Legislature ignoring insane decisions by the Courts) or Court Stacking - adding as many conservative appointees as possible to existing courts to bring their decisions in line with Constitutionality, rationality and public opinion. The Courts today ignore the laws, ignore the Constitution, and ignore Public opinion, substituting their own visions of social justice in their place.

What is a Judge? Merely a political appointee with a law degree. Yet they behaive like little gods, and are beyond public recall.

This is truly tyranny.

20 posted on 12/04/2003 9:13:46 AM PST by ZULU
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