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What Happens to Cheating Soldiers?
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| 12.01.03
| Brendan I. Koerner
Posted on 12/02/2003 2:06:22 PM PST by Cathryn Crawford
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To: Cathryn Crawford
There are so many dishonorable discharge puns here that one scarcely knows where to begin...
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:07:43 PM PST
by
Fangorn
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To: Cathryn Crawford
Define- "cheating".
Define- "Marriage"
Define- "Adultery"
Define- "Define"
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:12:46 PM PST
by
Kay Soze
(Liberal Homosexuals kill more people than Global Warming, SUVs’, Firearms & Terrorism combined.)
To: Cathryn Crawford
From my experience, it depends on the rank of the accused. High ranking people in a command normally get special treatment, while lower ranking people get the --
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:13:31 PM PST
by
berserker
To: Cathryn Crawford
The muslim chaplain is charged with adultery. Infidel!
To: Kay Soze
In 1981 when I was in the army it meant a court martial and serious jail time. During the Gulf War 1 a buddies wife came back after a nine(9) month tour two(2) months pregnant. She got a party. Times sure did change.
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:13:42 PM PST
by
Dutch Boy
To: All; biblewonk
Capt. James Yee, the Army chaplain accused of sneaking classified materials out of Guantanamo Bay, has been charged with adultery as well.Oh, c'mon. Haven't we progressed enough in the past hundred years or so, such that adultery should no longer be considered a crime?</sarcasm>
(I guess the previous commander-in-chief had immunity.)
In April 2002, President Bush further discouraged adultery prosecutions
{Ping} Apparently, Dubya decided X42 left some unfinished business in this area. At any rate, this bit o' news doesn't seem to bode well for any "sanctity of (gay) marriage" action on his part.
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:19:32 PM PST
by
newgeezer
(fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible, i.e. words mean things!)
To: Fangorn
Generally, the dividing line is whether you're screwing around with the spouse of another servicemember, and whether the other servicemember makes a big deal out of it. That's the kind of stuff that affect good order and discipline.
I personally know of at least one high-ranking officer whose was nailed for this. They just don't publish that stuff, which is why some folks may think they get away with it.
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:33:49 PM PST
by
XJarhead
To: Cathryn Crawford; xzins
X...got an answer padre?
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posted on
12/02/2003 2:39:33 PM PST
by
wtc911
To: Cathryn Crawford
They can join the "Widow's club" of the NYPD...
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posted on
12/02/2003 3:01:22 PM PST
by
Mark was here
(My fan club: You're a plague on this forum and I hope you find reason to leave.)
To: Dutch Boy
"In 1981 when I was in the army it meant a court martial and serious jail time. During the Gulf War 1 a buddies wife came back after a nine(9) month tour two(2) months pregnant. She got a party. Times sure did change."
A Marine Corps style "BLANKET PARTY" would have been more appropriate to the adultress.
The true sin was in getting pregnant - dump the b*tch!
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posted on
12/02/2003 3:03:20 PM PST
by
steplock
(www.FOCUS.GOHOTSPRINGS.com)
To: XJarhead
I do know what does get published. Heheh.
A single guy in my barracks had quite the collection of porn.
Included were some swinging magazines with ads.
Anyway he comes to our floor one afternoon with a swingers mag.
We were quite shocked to recognize a picture of the CO's wife on his truck, in the buff, and the ad was hilarious. Turned out that the wives of 10 junior officers, including our platoon leader were in the magazine for that month. They would have huge parties in Austin on weekends. Or at each others houses on post.
I don't think anything official ever came down.
No one really cared, but we did think it was funny as hell. Those pics kept popping up in the darnedest places.
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posted on
12/02/2003 3:20:08 PM PST
by
Stopislamnow
(Islam-Founded by Evil, and thriving on death. Just like the democratic party.)
To: Cathryn Crawford
Discrimination! This only applies to heterosexuals. What if gay soldiers in a committed relationship--say a civil union or a Vermont/Massachusetts marriage -- cheat?
To: steplock
A Marine Corps style "BLANKET PARTY" would have been more appropriate to the adultress.While she was pregnant?
To: Stopislamnow
LOL! I guess that's what you would call a "close" unit.
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posted on
12/02/2003 3:49:35 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: berserker
From my experience, a if an officer has an adulterous affair with an enlisted person or an enlisted person's spouse, they are in a whole heap of trouble.
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posted on
12/02/2003 3:49:50 PM PST
by
Blood of Tyrants
(Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
To: wtc911; Cathryn Crawford; LiteKeeper; M1Tanker
Lt. Kelly Flynn, an unmarried Air Force pilot who was discharged in 1997 after lying about an affair with the husband of an enlisted woman.
Actually, my memory says that enlisted man was somewhere within Lt Flynn's command. Even if my memory is incorrect, the AF still enforced strict anti-fraternization rules that the Army (at that time) did not.
Here's the real issue, though.
You've got a lonely, married GI in Iraq. He hears that his wife is fooling around with someone else back at the home base. It seriously distracts him in the midst of a deadly environment, and could even render him so inattentive that it costs his life. If wife is running around with a civilian, that's one thing. But if it's with a soldier, then the military will do something about it. It ruins good order and morale for that kind of thing to go on. It ruins it not only for the soldier involved but for every young buck who hears about it and begins to suspect the same of his wife. Remember, even in the animal kingdom, the young bucks are extremely jealous of their females.
On the other side of the ledger, you've got a wife at home who hears her man is running around with some other woman in a combat zone. The woman is probably a soldier, too. The wife gets frantic and shares it with other wives who live a miserable existence not trusting anything the rear detachment commander tries to do for them. One or more of them react with "retributive infidelity," that variety that is intended as a "get even" gesture. Soldiers hear about the infidelity, get distracted, and are easier targets for the enemy.
It destroys morale of the soldiers on the line to discover lack of trust and rampant jealousy on the part of their spouse back home.
Former chief of chaplains Patrick Hessians coined a phrase I really liked: "There's a thin line between the home front and the front line." It's absolutely true.
The adultery charge is for very good morale/discipline reasons and should be enforced. Usually it is handled by non-judicial UCMJ, so this article is slightly wrong. It is true that it is seldom brought up as a judicial issue unless tacked on to other charges.
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posted on
12/02/2003 3:51:08 PM PST
by
xzins
(Proud to be Army!)
To: berserker
From my experience (only 10 years in service and still going) the higher up you are, the harder you fall.
This includes a few SGMs of the Army, a couple of generals and a few COLs.
Lower enlisted tend to have more problems than just adultery if they are brought up on UCMJ. And, in the 90s, it was REALLY hard to prosecute since the Commander and Chief was doing it every day!! Great example for the troops Bill.... Just like everything else he did to "HEP" the military, this shining example set the tone for life in the military in the Clinton Years..
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posted on
12/02/2003 4:24:15 PM PST
by
M1Tanker
(Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
To: xzins
Thanks.
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posted on
12/02/2003 4:28:26 PM PST
by
wtc911
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