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Liberal Radio Group Says It Is Close to Acquiring 5 Stations
The New York Times ^ | 12/1/03 | Jim Rutenberg

Posted on 11/30/2003 9:41:00 PM PST by raccoonradio

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To: SAJ
Short 1000 on the bell for the month, then short 10,000 out 6 mos. because by then this stuck pig will have blead to death and we will all be happy ! :)
21 posted on 11/30/2003 10:20:07 PM PST by carlson
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To: raccoonradio
have fun lefties;0 this is going to be like that parody Rush did of tommy daschele doing his own radio show somewhere in the dakotas. what a hoot this will be! the callers will be all of us right wingers LOL
22 posted on 11/30/2003 10:21:02 PM PST by suzyq5558 (the nine dwarves= idiocrats on parade)
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To: carlson
Not bad, not bad at all. I'm more inclined (and I've had better results, historically) though, to let the IPO pop for 24, hit the 2nd day at the bell, then scale in 500-600 short (not as well-heeled as you (g!)) after upticks every 2-3% down from there. Have to have our ducks in a row to know from which firm to borrow the shares, too -- not always strightforward, that.

No way in h*ll that shorting this puppy won't make some profit, but the problem is (as always) we aren't the only ones with this figured out. Ah, well, such is the mkt, eh?

Good trading to you, and FReegards!

23 posted on 11/30/2003 11:25:47 PM PST by SAJ
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To: raccoonradio
The only way they can get on the air is to own the stations. Rush doesn't own his stations. Someone else owns the stations and wants to air his show because the public listens to his show which makes money for the stations.

No one listens to lib radio so stations that - gasp - are in the business to make money won't carry the lib shows, thus the only way for lib shows to get on the air is to buy their own stations. The overhead will be tremendous. They probably don't care as they are going for broke for the 2004 election. Why they don't simply make the NPR programming more blatantly lib than it is I don't know. They've already got the tax payer paying for that.
24 posted on 11/30/2003 11:33:13 PM PST by Let's Roll (Pray that our brave troops receive protection, guidance and support in their fight against evil.)
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To: Hildy
Their liberal audience is smoking dope and watching Jerry Springer and MTV, and listening to hip-hop CDs.

This plan is doomed, but it will be fun to watch millionaire liberal 'rats shovel money down this 'rathole.

25 posted on 11/30/2003 11:35:43 PM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: raccoonradio
I kept looking to see where the link to The Onion was in the article, but eghads, it appears they're actually thinking this will fly...

I wonder if they've noticed that virtually every liberal talk radio host has either become more conservative or been blown off the air. Here in Los Angeles, even the local editions of NPR have become much more conservative than they used to be. Heck, even our local NAACP supporter has dumped the NAACP and called them a bunch of loons.

I can't wait for their first broadcast, and even more entertaining, the first publishing of ratings. It'll be horribly embarrassing when they won't be able to capture their time slots against conservative hosts in a liberal city.
26 posted on 11/30/2003 11:37:16 PM PST by kingu (CNN doesn't want you to watch Fox News.. The renegade is now the mainstream.)
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To: raccoonradio
What about all those people who don't have 5 radio stations? Who will get stations for them?
27 posted on 11/30/2003 11:37:51 PM PST by nickcarraway (www.terrisfight.org)
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To: suzyq5558
I don't think it will be boring - they are throwing words around like entertaining, energetic. I'm betting it will be more like shock jock stuff. Outrageous, like the lies they write about Dubya now. This will be to reach their many constituents who can't read.
28 posted on 11/30/2003 11:38:00 PM PST by Let's Roll (Pray that our brave troops receive protection, guidance and support in their fight against evil.)
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To: raccoonradio
Oh, this one is going to be a real laugh. Imagine listening to this lineup:

The Janeane Garofolo Moaning Sarcasm Hour
Al Franken hosts "Raving Blubberlips Loony HAHA"
The George Clooney Emotionless Pronouncement Show LIVE!
Porn Commercial by Larry Flynt
Anti-Porn Commercial by Feminists
Sean Penn on Geopolitics
Susan Sarandon hosts "Screeching for Dollars"

Oh yeah, this is gonna be good. They think that the USA is starved for this programming.
29 posted on 11/30/2003 11:38:58 PM PST by Arkinsaw (What LSU game? Huh? No idea what you are talking about.)
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To: raccoonradio
This is just an untraceable campaign contribution. When it fails it will be a tax writeoff as well where political contributions usually are not.
30 posted on 11/30/2003 11:49:42 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: raccoonradio
What's odd is that they claim 1,2,4,5,6 market cities, yet "Sheldon and Anita Drobny, wealthy Chicago Democrats who
originated the project", are shut out of #3, Chicago.

No need? Then there is no need in San Francisco either. Probably Philly too.

Are they then stacking the deck attack with liberal markets? Why compete against NPR? Wouldn't the "red" areas require
more propaganda than the "blue"? Or do they need to rally the uneducated riffraff that blindly votes democrat to keep voting democrat?

31 posted on 12/01/2003 12:11:25 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: raccoonradio
Some political analysts have attributed past failures to liberal audiences' lack of interest in hearing their own views repeated.

Ha!

32 posted on 12/01/2003 12:53:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: raccoonradio
Given enough money and "talent," anything can succeed. There's always the outside possibility that this will take off. But I don't think so, and here's why: Radio is a medium for the mind, not the eye. Radio was universally popular when there was no television or movies. Radio dramas, quiz shows, variety shows then migrated to TV, never to return to radio.

Conservative talk radio has succeeded because there are core ideas central to conservatism/libertarianism which can be grasped by anyone willing to listen and learn. No talking points, updated daily by a central committee, are necessary for each radio host to be able to discuss the news and issues of the day.

For liberal radio to attract and keep listeners, it will have to at least be amusing. So for a while, someone like Al Franken will read from his books, do some kind of schtick, etc. But he won't be able to sustain it, day after day, because there are no ideas inherent in liberalism. There is only an ever-shifting hierarchy of victims, also updated daily along with the talking points. The "ideas" of liberalism cannot be discussed; they can only be reiterated, which is not something one would want to listen to for hours at a time.

33 posted on 12/01/2003 1:24:50 AM PST by giotto
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To: raccoonradio
The network has hired Martin Kaplan to be the host of an early evening talk show about the news media. Mr. Kaplan is associate dean of the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Southern California and was once a speechwriter for Walter F. Mondale as well as a Disney studio executive.

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What fiendishly clever people these liberals are!

Kaplan is obviously the man to reach out to a key uncommitted "swing" constituency:
Left-wing Jewish academic Mondale supporters in Hollywood.

Oh, may conservatism always be blessed with such incompetent adversaries!

34 posted on 12/01/2003 1:35:13 AM PST by Madstrider
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To: raccoonradio
What kind of flea-powered stations will run this?

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Some Dem bought a pair of used Motorola hand held units from me this weekend. I wonder???

35 posted on 12/01/2003 2:10:18 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: raccoonradio
The left seems to be treating radio like it treats government programs: Pour in lots of money based on good intentions, and wish that the programs work. It won't take them long to find out that in a market driven business it takes more than wishing to achieve success. By the way, that's not true with government programs. If government programs fail, it's because, in liberal minds, there wasn't enough money spent. The fix is to spend more. Maybe they'll do the same here. (OK, I can wish, too.)

They are also treating market share like taxes, it's a zero sum game. Therefore, if you buy a radio station with a million listeners, you will have a million people listening to you. Wear your ear protectors when they start broadcasting. There will be the sound of a million radios clicking off, all at once.

Isn't it great that they're spending their money on this?
36 posted on 12/01/2003 5:38:10 AM PST by norwaypinesavage
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To: raccoonradio
>>Some political analysts have attributed past failures to liberal audiences' lack of interest in hearing _their own views repeated_.

"This is NPR. National PUBLIC Radio..." :)

Some NPR stations might have some interesting music programming-- jazz, blues, folk, classical-- but I wouldn't
waste my time hearing their talk. Of course sometimes their views get into the music programming too; I heard
a (locally produced) folk music show on an NPR affiliate in Ohio on the day Clinton got impeached and the host
referred to "...on this tragic day in our nation's
history..."
37 posted on 12/01/2003 7:22:14 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: Calvin Locke
>>What's odd is that they claim 1,2,4,5,6 market cities

Well, supposedly they're targeting 5 of the top 10 markets. Boston is one of them--and it happens to be the
#_10_ radio market (#6 for TV). And I'm not sure what station in Boston is going to be "sold" to the network;
it's probably a weak-signal one. There ARE rumors that the Sporting News Radio network (in Boston: WWZN 1510) may
sell its stations to this network, but even if All Lib
Radio winds up on 1510, it would never match stations
like WRKO 680 (Rush, Howie Carr, Savage) or WTKK
(Jay Severin, Ingraham, Hannity).
38 posted on 12/01/2003 7:27:59 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: suzyq5558
>>this is going to be like that parody Rush did of tommy daschele doing his own radio show somewhere in the dakotas

Even liberal Harry Shearer ("Mr Burns", "Smithers", and
"Principal Skinner" on "The Simpsons") did a half-decent
spoof of what liberal talk radio would sound like. On Shearer's "Le Show" (airing on several NPR stations),
he did "The Al Gore Show", with Al Franken as Gore's
sidekick...and it sounded pathetic. When the REAL
Al Franken show debuts on Lib Radio, it'll be even
worse.
39 posted on 12/01/2003 7:31:59 AM PST by raccoonradio
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To: raccoonradio
WBOR 666 AM
WZZZ 000 AM
WRAT 666 AM
40 posted on 12/01/2003 7:40:54 AM PST by gitmo (Stability cannot be purchased at the expense of liberty. -GWB)
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