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The fact that the Saudi authorities did not reveal that this was largely a Lebanese Christian area, that they rapidly demolished the remains and stayed silent while the media misreported the identity of the victims, suggests a deliberate attempt to mask what is going on in the kingdom. (Meanwhile, a debate is taking place in the Saudi press over whether a woman named Saban Abu Lisam, who was herself injured in the blast but nevertheless drove seven other injured victims to the hospital, should be praised for her courage or punished for violating the ban on women driving.)
Duplicitous bastards, the whole lot of them!.
1 posted on
11/23/2003 8:59:53 PM PST by
quidnunc
To: quidnunc
We need to pray for our Christian brothers and sisters in that hostile place.
To: quidnunc
The media seem to equate Arab with Muslim and, along with some in the administration, think that al Qaeda's war is against Americans and Westerners per se, rather than against all "infidels," a group al Qaeda defines idiosyncratically and expansively as anyone who is not a strictly observant Muslim.
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Let's say it more plainly. We are in a world-wide war with a religion that wants to impose a world-wide Taliban state --as ti must to fulfill the commandments of the Koran. al Qaeda is only a part of it.
3 posted on
11/23/2003 9:15:02 PM PST by
RLK
To: quidnunc; NRA2BFree
This duplicity (mostly by the leftist media) serves two purposes: 1) It takes the focus off the fact that killing Christians is a top priority for Islamist terror orgs. (I guess they figure that covering up this fact will help keep Western ill-will towards the Muslim world from spiraling out of control); B) It takes the focus off that fact that many Arabs are indeed Christians, and that Muslims converting to Christianity actually happens. (I'm sure this fact drives the anti-Christian leftists in the Western media insane).
6 posted on
11/23/2003 9:49:35 PM PST by
Mr. Mojo
To: quidnunc
"...Al Qaeda and its allies aim to kill or subdue all "infidels," Muslim or non-Muslim, who stand in the way of their goal of restoring a worldwide caliphate governed, Taliban-style, by the strictest, narrowest interpretation of Islamic law. Until this fact is finally assimilated, we will continue to have a military that fights superbly against an enemy whose strategic aims we refuse to understand."
7 posted on
11/23/2003 9:53:10 PM PST by
etcetera
To: quidnunc
Great article, and makes a point we can't ignore, one we've been ignoring too long. In Indonesia, for example, there's a terrorist gang that has been targeting Christian villages for the past two years, with the help of the state's police.
Note in this article, though, that the vast majority of the world's Muslims don't agree with the terrorists. The terrorists hope to intimidate them or to recruit them by appearing to be successful against us.
That is a very important reason for the administration and others to be very clear about who's being targeted and why. We risk becoming complicit in these sustained attacks against Christians, Jews and others, if we are silent.
Anyway, those "duplicitous" Saudi b*****ds are being let off the hook!!!!!
To: quidnunc
*Duplicitous bastards, the whole lot of them!*
arabs and muslims, the birthplace of islam. It doesn't get any better than that.
12 posted on
11/24/2003 12:20:31 AM PST by
tubavil
To: quidnunc
Christians need to aggressively proselitize Muslims wherever they are. I think many Muslims are ripe to leave the religion of murder and mayhem.
15 posted on
11/24/2003 3:13:52 AM PST by
tkathy
(The islamofascists and the democrats are trying to destroy this country)
To: quidnunc
Until this fact [the real goal of Islamic militants] is finally assimilated, we will continue to have a military that fights superbly against an enemy whose strategic aims we refuse to understand. Excellent article. I do remember that just after the bombings, news reporters spoke of the complex as being considered "sinful" by the Saudis. In Islamic paradises like Saudi Arabia, that usually means non-Muslim. But none of the reporters appears to have followed up and investigated in any way, or if they have, they've kept their findings quiet.
If the press took a tenth of the time they waste standing around waiting for some freaky entertainer to appear in handcuffs for his latest round of gross behavior, and used it for actually investigating a story that mattered, we might have gotten better a better idea of this, despite Saudi duplicitousness.
I thought the above quote was an excellent summary of our problem (and I fear it afflicts not only the media and the Dems).
16 posted on
11/24/2003 3:37:35 AM PST by
livius
To: quidnunc; okie01; marron; dennisw; seamole; Grampa Dave; swarthyguy
Bump.
To be fair, the Western press, out of ignorance, labeled the target Muslim, not Christian. Some of the english language Arab Press I saw was a little more forthcoming about the target.
18 posted on
11/24/2003 12:30:17 PM PST by
Shermy
To: quidnunc
This fact has not been overlooked but deliberately ignored by the left, especially the leftist media.
Remember that to a good lefty, ALL events are agenda driven-from the rising of the sun to the melting of a glacier. The spin IS ALWAYS anti-capitalist, anti-corporate and anti-American. To blame the seeds of this conflict on a clash between two cultures that predate the founding of the American Republican party profits them nothing. No, the cause must have political and economic roots traceable directly back to greedy American motives and conduct-this gives them a situation that can be exploited politically to their advantage. This is the spin that gives them political leverage with the spilling of American blood. As with the Bolsheviks, EVERYTHING is politicized.
25 posted on
11/24/2003 12:57:18 PM PST by
Spok
To: quidnunc
The paradox is that fundamentalist muslims that strictly follow their religion kill christians and the average muslim who dose not take the muslim faith serious kills nobody but likes when their radical buddies do, while the fundamentalist christian kills nobody and prays for their enimies and the mediocre christian who can't seem to be able to turn the other cheek would gladly pull the trigger and dispatch a known radical muslim if the opportunity presented itself. The difference is that muslims all over the world are actively killing christians globaly while the occasional christian kills only in self defense. Those my friends are the cold hard facts.
29 posted on
11/24/2003 1:14:12 PM PST by
Mat_Helm
To: quidnunc
Duplicitous? Maybe so. But I'd rather the Arabs think that Al Quada is attacking fellow Arabs and split them apart than have this played up as a religious war. We don't need that right now.
30 posted on
11/24/2003 4:04:52 PM PST by
gcruse
(http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
To: quidnunc
Great post quid. In particular:
"Al Qaeda and its allies aim to kill or subdue all "infidels," Muslim or non-Muslim, who stand in the way of their goal of restoring a worldwide caliphate governed, Taliban-style, by the strictest, narrowest interpretation of Islamic law.
Until this fact is finally assimilated, we will continue to have a military that fights superbly against an enemy whose strategic aims we refuse to understand. "
To: quidnunc
If I'm not mistaken, the President & advisors called the victims "fellow Muslims" as well.
It would be nice if our President made the distinction offered by this article.
36 posted on
11/24/2003 6:04:54 PM PST by
armadale
To: quidnunc
Religion Of Peace BUMP!
37 posted on
11/24/2003 6:25:45 PM PST by
Gritty
("Religion Of Peace", my @$$!)
To: quidnunc
This is more than interesting, and rather disgusting.
38 posted on
11/24/2003 6:29:03 PM PST by
ladyinred
(Talk about a revolution, look at California!!! We dumped Davis!!!)
To: quidnunc
Isn't this just a replay of that restaurant bombing in Haifa a few months ago?
IIRC, the media told us the restaurant was co-owned/operated by Jews and Arabs...
then we found out later the "Arabs" were Lebanese Christians.
I may not have recollected this, so I invite correction...
46 posted on
11/27/2003 3:49:46 PM PST by
VOA
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