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To: Poohbah
"The bond issue will not pass.

Schwarzenegger knows this, as does McClintock.

Even the Democrats oppose it, which is why they want to engage in more illegal financial shenanigans.

Methinks Schwarzenegger and McClintock are playing the Dems like a Stradivarius. "

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I disagree with you this one time.

The bond measure IS the only way out, short of raising taxes. The Dems want to put Arnold into the position to end up raising taxes -- remember GHW Bush?

Arnold will put the bond measure in front of the people, if the legislature won't pass it. It's either the bonds or immediate tax increases.

I always vote against bond measures, but if it will come in front of the voters, this is one bond measure I will vote for.

McClintock is being his usual obstructionist self. He opposed everything other Republican governors tried to do too: both Deukmejian and Wilson.
22 posted on 11/20/2003 9:27:36 AM PST by FairOpinion
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To: FairOpinion
Bonds sometimes raise taxes(retiring bonds)

The last bond measure I voted on had a $180 price tag for property taxes (something like that) for a school building measure.

32 posted on 11/20/2003 9:44:29 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("Today's music ain't got the same soul. I like that old time Rock N Roll" - Bob Seger)
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To: FairOpinion
The bond measure IS the only way out, short of raising taxes.

Bond measures ARE raising taxes.

You can call it a bond. You can call it a licence fee. You can call it a revenue enhancement. You can call it a permit. You can call it tariff. You can call it a duty. You can call it a property assessment

IT'S STILL A FRIGGIN' TAX!

Just because you push off its effects onto another group of people (our kids, in this case) doesn't make it right. Until the State budget is cut back by at least 25%, I'll not vote a single penny out of my children's pockets. When we are no longer paying for gangbanger tattoo removal and schoolteacher sex-changes and monuments to racist La Raza monuments and everything else the legislature buys votes with, I'll consider another bond.

What Arnold needs to do is play hardball, and line-item veto everything in the budget that isn't a vital service until we are spending less than our income, not run up our State credit card another $20 Billion.

45 posted on 11/20/2003 9:59:43 AM PST by LexBaird (Tyrannosaurus Lex, unapologetic carnivore)
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