hmmm, interesting analysis
1 posted on
11/14/2003 2:12:31 PM PST by
sdk7x7
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To: sdk7x7
Go Nuclear!!!!!
To: sdk7x7
Dear President Bush.
Two words, sir:
Recess Appointments.
Regards,
L
3 posted on
11/14/2003 2:18:02 PM PST by
Lurker
(Some people say you shouldn't kick a man when he's down. I say there's no better time to do it.)
To: sdk7x7
"RememberI used to cut people's hearts out for a living."Hmmm. Good line! But in dealing with people like Kennedy, Clinton, and Schumer(sp?), is Frist qualified for microsurgery?
4 posted on
11/14/2003 2:22:14 PM PST by
NicknamedBob
(Tag line roulette wheel spinning, ... spinning, ... (FREE SPIN))
To: sdk7x7
"I will stand with them to the bitter end," said the PresidentI love W.
I don't love that statement.
"Stand with" is passive. "Bitter end" accepts Demo victory.
What he should have said is....
"I will take whatever actions necessary to see to it that the Senate minority stops shirking its Constitutional duty and obstructing the rule of law, and votes on my appointments."
Dan
5 posted on
11/14/2003 2:23:15 PM PST by
BibChr
("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
To: sdk7x7
Simple solution:
President Bush notifys the US Senate that (so-and-so) will be seated as judge XYZ, UNLESS the US Senate votes to disapprove the nominee and that failure to vote, either way, will be considered to be the Senate's 'consent' to the nominee.
To: sdk7x7
a GOP that controls only 51 Senate seatsUm...isn't this wrong?
Thought we had 52.
To: sdk7x7
"The reason Republicans don't have all 51 of their senators...is that a number of them...are worried that changing the rules would make it easier someday for a President Hillary Clinton to get her judicial nominees through the Senate." What pathetic Minority Loser think. The Republicans are the Majority Party and it is hardly in the Republican interest to let the diminishing numbers of Democrats act like a Majority. Queen Victoria had it right:
"We are not interested in the possibilities of defeat; they do not exist."
ATTRIBUTION: Victoria (18191901), British monarch, Queen of Great Britain and Ireland. Letter, December 1899, to statesman A.J. Balfour, during the Black Week of the Boer War.
11 posted on
11/14/2003 2:31:42 PM PST by
Plutarch
To: sdk7x7
Tell the DIMs in the Senate that when they confirm these judges they can come the next day to the White House and see that "INTEL" they are so worried about. They can even bring "JOE WILSON"!
To: sdk7x7
The fear, regarding the nuclear option, is totally unfounded. Republicans are afraid that a rule change now would make it difficult to block the Democrats at some future date when Rats are a majority. Does anyone in his right mind believe that the Democrats wouldn't make that rule change themselves if minority Republicans were blocking appointments?
The Republicans have a choice. Do it now and take some advantage, or wait until the Democrats do it when they are in power and they completely stack the courts. The Dems would even have the audacity to change the rules, and then change them back after they get their way.
20 posted on
11/14/2003 2:45:58 PM PST by
pjd
To: sdk7x7
The Republicans have little to lose with the so called 'nukular option', because they wouldn't have the balls to conduct a filibuster on Dem nominees if the situation were reversed, and they would fold like tents if forced to carry it out.
It's like they're saying, we can't be tough because it would prevent us from being tough in the future. It's nothing more than an exercise of the imagination since the Republican Senate is intrinsically averse to toughness in the first place.
To: sdk7x7
all three of those fighting conservatives will be gone from the Senate.Well I think they now have at least four newly minted ones, Brownback, Coleman, Graham, and Santorum.
22 posted on
11/14/2003 2:52:40 PM PST by
StriperSniper
(All this, of course, is simply pious fudge. - H. L. Mencken)
To: sdk7x7
Recess Appointments, PLEAE!
23 posted on
11/14/2003 2:54:13 PM PST by
MadMoo
To: sdk7x7
Still, the "nuclear option," the aide said, comes up at "almost every meeting of the [Senate] Republican Conference." Its strongest proponents are Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Orrin Hatch (Utah) and Conference Chairman Rick Santorum (Pa.). Go nuclear and never elect another Democrat as President. The Clintons and liberals have so polluted the party it is not worth saving. At least one fifth of them are traitors anyway.
To: sdk7x7
When Hatch appeared on C-SPAN earlier this week he sounded fairly certain that they would use the nuclear option. The only question seemed to be when. He mentioned that the RATS said that if they used it "they would blow up the Senate", so Hatch was fairly certain that it wouldn't be used until after all of the major legislation was passed later this year.
By that time, there will be more filibusters on more nominees. With a growing list, perhaps some of those Republicans who currently oppose it will finally get fed up and join the majority.
By the way, the last time that the nuclear option was "used" (1975?) the mere threat of using it was enough to make the opposition back down.
26 posted on
11/14/2003 3:05:23 PM PST by
jackbill
To: sdk7x7
The rats are operating in a lawless state. The republicans are trying to fight them using law. It doesn't really matter what our side does. They simply refuse to abide by the law. People like that cannot be dealt with using persuasion, threats, common sense, tradition, or the U.S. Constitution. It is time for the Senate Republicans to say nothing more about it. AT ALL. And it is time for President Bush to begin his recess appointment list. No talk, no reasoning, no debate, no arguing the law. Quiet determination is what I would like to see. The rats will come unglued. Let them. They have left W. and the Senate Republicans with no other choice. I think the American people will get it.
To: k2blader
Here is a better explanation.
36 posted on
11/14/2003 3:54:03 PM PST by
narses
("The do-it-yourself Mass is ended. Go in peace" Francis Cardinal Arinze of Nigeria)
To: sdk7x7
"The reason Republicans don't have all 51 of their senators," said a Senate aide, "is that a number of themand not just the non-conservativesare worried that changing the rules would make it easier someday for a President Hillary Clinton to get her judicial nominees through the Senate." Haven't the Republicans been watching the trends? Don't they realize that they will likely still hold the Senate no matter who is President in 2008?
-PJ
To: sdk7x7
The Nuclear option and recess appointments are good strategies. Recalling/Impeachment of judges practicing judical abuse must also be considered. It may be a good time to start removing some of the "crazies".
To: sdk7x7; FatherOfLiberty
"If the chair, as planned, rules that the point of order is correct, a simple majority of the full Senatewhich the Republicans havecould uphold his ruling, effectively changing Senate rules to force simple up-or-down majority votes on nominations. Filibusters would be eliminated for presidential nominations, period." So what are they waiting for? Do they think for a minute that the RATs wouldn't use this option if the situation were reversed?
FOL, we are definitely gonna need that RAT Whacker.
.
44 posted on
11/14/2003 4:47:24 PM PST by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sdk7x7
[GOP considers "nuke option}Yes! Let's nuke Vermont!
45 posted on
11/14/2003 4:57:29 PM PST by
Paleo Conservative
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