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Defending the General
Slate ^ | Nov. 13th, 2003 | Fred Kaplan

Posted on 11/14/2003 10:35:39 AM PST by van_erwin

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To: van_erwin
True, when Clinton realized Russia and China would veto a resolution calling for intervention, he backed away from the Security Council. However, he did not subsequently piece together a paltry, handpicked caricature of a coalition, as Bush did for the war in Iraq. Instead, he went through another established international organization—NATO.

Is the author suggesting Bush should have gone to NATO like Clintoon? Russia and China aren't in NATO, so NATO was an option for Clintoon. Bush's opponents in the UN were France and Germany, both members of NATO.

If the author really believes that while France and Germany defied us at the UN, they would have happily gone along with a NATO invasion of Iraq, then he's the moron.

21 posted on 11/14/2003 11:02:34 AM PST by kevao (Fuques France!)
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To: kevao
Moron.
22 posted on 11/14/2003 11:05:25 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: fml
Dangerous Moron!
23 posted on 11/14/2003 11:08:34 AM PST by HardStarboard (Dump Wesley Clark.....he worries me as much as Hillary!)
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To: van_erwin
Genius or moron? How about "weasel"?
24 posted on 11/14/2003 11:09:21 AM PST by pankot
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To: van_erwin; *balkans; Destro; Fusion; A. Pole; Honorary Serb; Andy from Beaverton; NYC Republican; ..
Does anyone care to argue that intervening in Kosovo was a bad idea,

Lots of people!

that the Western alliance wasn't (at least for a brief spell) strengthened as a result,

It was?  The French were sending bombing info to Milosevic ahead of time.  The Germans were constantly pleading to end the air campaign (Since they got caught lying about the Pristina soccer field camp)

or that the war was unsuccessful?

Are the residents of Yugoslavia better off today than they were 4 years ago?

Milosevic surrendered, was captured,

To whom?  To the government of Yugoslavia.

and is standing trial for war crimes in a court of international law

A court that makes the OJ trial look like jurisprudence.

—which is more than can be said of Saddam Hussein.

At least we found mass grave in Iraq which is more than we can say about Yugoslavia.

The Serbian defeat was total, unchallenged, and internationally imposed, which may explain why the (truly multinational) postwar peacekeeping forces have suffered minimal casualties in the intervening years.

Yes, but look at who is causing those casualties!!!

25 posted on 11/14/2003 11:14:42 AM PST by Incorrigible
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To: van_erwin
MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON MORON

He's a Dim so you can vote more than once....

26 posted on 11/14/2003 11:17:04 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (SSDD - Same S#it Different Democrat)
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To: hobson
Either way Weslie's still a demonrat!
27 posted on 11/14/2003 11:17:23 AM PST by SwinneySwitch (Freedom isn't Free - Support the Troops & Vets!!)
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To: van_erwin
MONSTER
28 posted on 11/14/2003 11:17:34 AM PST by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: dandelion
"Moron."

I think you are giving him too much credit. After all, Clark is running as a democrat (demwit).
29 posted on 11/14/2003 11:18:05 AM PST by punster
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To: pankot; HardStarboard
Dangerous Moron Weasel.
30 posted on 11/14/2003 11:19:07 AM PST by fml ( You can twist perception, reality won't budge. -RUSH)
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To: van_erwin
Moron. Next question.
31 posted on 11/14/2003 11:20:16 AM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: van_erwin

*Moron*


32 posted on 11/14/2003 11:20:46 AM PST by Capitalist Eric
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To: punster
Clark has always reminded me of Leslie Nielson in the naked Gun or Police Squad.
33 posted on 11/14/2003 11:20:56 AM PST by Ladytotheright (Right is Right)
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To: mhking
MORON
34 posted on 11/14/2003 11:27:36 AM PST by dcwusmc ("The most dangerous man, to any government, is the man who is able to think things out for himself.")
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To: van_erwin
Wes "Butcher of Serbs" is definitely NOT a genius.
35 posted on 11/14/2003 11:34:11 AM PST by Dante3
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To: van_erwin
"Alex, I'll take Moron for $250"


36 posted on 11/14/2003 11:37:30 AM PST by Hillary's Lovely Legs (I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
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To: van_erwin
Weasely Clark, aka Col. Flagg, is a self-important, glory seeking fool. Put me down for moron.
37 posted on 11/14/2003 11:39:00 AM PST by Laserman
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To: van_erwin
Survey says: Moron. And a Metrosexual Moron at that. Could he catch Bin Laden AND keep his cuticles intact?
38 posted on 11/14/2003 11:41:42 AM PST by proust
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To: Hillary's Lovely Legs
Now that's downright Gay...
39 posted on 11/14/2003 11:50:51 AM PST by ErnBatavia
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To: van_erwin; Incorrigible
This article is a sewer-full of racist, Serbophobic lies!!! To respond to all of them point by point would take much longer than I have time for.

The bottom line is that the war against the Serbian people was the very worst thing that clinton did, and he did a lot of very bad things that we and others in the world are still suffering the consequences of. Now comes "General Jack D. Ripper" Wesley Clark, the commander of the KLA air force, running on his TOTALLY NEGATIVE record!!!

As for those on this thread who are ripping into Clark for being a "Democrat"--the REAL truth is that he is an amoral opportunist who would be running as a Republican if a non-clintonite Democrat were in the White House! His main loyalty is first to his own ambition, and second to the creation of a New World Order!!

40 posted on 11/14/2003 12:37:49 PM PST by Honorary Serb
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