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Florida Court Prohibits Terri's Parents From Joining "Terri's Law" Battle (ACLJ)
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| November 4, 2003
| Steven Ertelt
Posted on 11/04/2003 4:45:08 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Legerdemain
I really do not know why the godsquad is fighting this, With their beliefs, she will go to heaven, and if her husband is not truthful, he will go to hell...it is not your place to judge....sheesh godsquad, give it up and keep your bibliorants to yourselves
You know the guy that lives next door really pisses me off. I am going to kill him. If I'm wrong I'll go to hell and he'll be in heaven, right? So what would be the problem with that again?
To: Deep_6
Er, you are incorrect. Judge Greer's own APPOINTEE came back and showed I don't know how many instances of where Michael broke the rules as guardian, one of which was his OWN testimony that he had withheld antiobiotics from her twice in an effort to kill her. This is NOT guessing but documented fact, look it up. He recommended that Michael be removed and another guardian put in place. Judge Greer then proceeded to ignore his own appointee at the advice of Michael's attorney. Do you find that odd?
To: greccogirl
bad analogy....not even going to reply to that one....
To: greccogirl
You know the guy that lives next door really pisses me off. I am going to kill him. If I'm wrong I'll go to hell and he'll be in heaven, right? So what would be the problem with that again?Ummm... Urine Deficiency Anemia ??? ;-))
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posted on
11/04/2003 8:45:04 PM PST
by
GeekDejure
(<H3> Searching For The Meaning Of "Huge" Fonts !!!</H3>)
To: Legerdemain
It is perfectly within bounds to criticise Christianity, Islam or any other religion in general but when you make that criticism a PERSONAL ATTACK against posters like you are doing here with your "godsquad" remark that is OUT OF BOUNDS according to the Free Republic posting policy. You should know this because EVERY time you make a post here you are told under the innitial post window:
Please, NO Personal attacks, NO profanity NO, Racism or Violence in posts.
and under the review post window:
Loose lips sink ships!
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posted on
11/04/2003 8:49:44 PM PST
by
Coral Snake
(deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
To: malakhi
"Would you prefer to dissolve the legislature and let the judiciary legislate from the bench?" Why not? It's what they're doing anyway. < /sarcasm > If they don't like the laws the legislature passes, they just overturn them. And we thought the people were in control of the government.
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posted on
11/04/2003 8:52:05 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: sweetliberty
I know that we Christians are not supposed to gamble but I'm still willing to lay BETS that one of these trolls is Michael Schiavo or George Felos.
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posted on
11/04/2003 8:58:29 PM PST
by
Coral Snake
(deathculture(HospiceOf TheFlorida$uncoast == Andersonville + Aushwitz)
To: Legerdemain
Let me educate you.
I would hope I was not comatose for 13 years
Terri hasn't been in a coma for 13 years. She "awakened" from her coma 4-6 weeks after her collapse in Feb.1990.
my wife would have pulled the plug 13 years ago
Which plug is that, again? Respirator?-Terri's not on one; hmmm ventilator?-nope, she's not hooked up to that either; well, how 'bout the heart machine? Looks like Terri doesn't require one of those either. Forgive me, which plug requiring electricity are you referring to? Terri's not hooked up to any machines, no electricity!
For your further edification, I recommend you review some of the documents that have been posted throughout these Terri threads. Are you aware that Terri used to be able to be fed orally, early on? However, apparently Michael was not concerned with Terri's so-called "no tubes for me" desire, because he gave the doctors permission to implant a portal to feed Terri with. You see she could eat, but it took a very long time, and the nursing staff needed to have things a little more convenient for them. They couldn't afford to spend all their time with one patient. So, it's never been true that Terri could never eat orally. She could, but after Michael received the malpractice award money, he stopped allowing her to have any more therapy. If he had provided her these necessary and constitutionally protected therapies, Terri may well be able to eat on her own by now.
I can't even understand why you've said in other posts that Terri is brain-dead, because the other night on Larry King Live, I distinctly heard George Felos admit on television that Terri was NOT brain-dead.
Now, if you would like to have things for yourself go the way you'd like them to, by all means, have a living will. If you feel like you would rather not be fed or offered water in your last days, fine! Specify it! No one here will argue with you about your right to choose what you want, and if it's in writing, it can't be contested.
But ponder this. Terri left NOTHING in writing. It can't be verified. Even IF Terri did mention something to her husband indicating that she wouldn't want to "live like that", does it mean that she would want to die by starvation and dehydration? Do you think she had some sort of crystal ball she looked in pre-collapse that informed her that "artificial life support" would mean anything other than heart and lung machines? The law was amended in 1999 to include food and water. How could Terri have known that and consented to that, when it wasn't even part of the law at the time of her collapse?
To: Coral Snake
godsquad is not out of bounds..........if it is, then FR would be shut down...look at any thread...yawn
To: gooleyman; FR_addict
"I suspect we won't ever see an answer." Allow me to venture a guess here. The answer is in the game. They could care less about Terri, Florida law, the courts, Michael or anything else to do with this case. They're in it for the sport of it. They like trolling and manipulating peoples' emotions, kinda like the HINO (they identify with him, which is probably why they take his side). It makes them feel superior. They have no God consciousness, therefore everything is framed in humanistic relativism. I dare say that the same trolls who dismiss Terri today as being a vegetable, would be taking the other side if we believed that killing her was the morally right thing to do.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:04:47 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: Deep_6
I made no reference to the FL courts as Kangaroo. My only comment was in ref to your foolish claim that Terri's parents choose to wait 13 years. Did Terri's husband choose to wait 13 years?
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:09:37 PM PST
by
eggman
(Social Insecurity - Who will provide for the government when the government provides for all of us?)
To: nickcarraway
Oh, crap.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:16:15 PM PST
by
sfRummygirl
(SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
To: Legerdemain
Terri's family do not have a horse in this race...Ummm...did you read all the way to the last paragraph?
Michael's lawsuit also seeks a removal of Terri's feeding tube for the third time. The Schindlers' petition asks the judge to allow them to be appointed Terri's guardian in place of Michael.
If this were merely a dispute over the constitutional separation of powers, you might be right.
But the lawsuit includes yet another demand for Terri's death by starvation. The Schindlers do indeed have a dog in that fight.
To: nickcarraway
"October 15th, 2003"....
might be another troll.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:18:09 PM PST
by
sfRummygirl
(SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
To: nickcarraway
I think "it" does want to change both FL law and precedents, to make it even EASIER for people to "opt" for starvation. Which is a stalking horse for euthanasia by more overt killing acts (e.g. overdose of opiates). Since FL is the senior citizen capital of America, this is the logical place for them to do it.
To: GeekDejure
Better watch your blood pressure on this thread my FRiend. The trolls are looking for food. What say we starve them?
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:18:50 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
To: wisconsinconservative
It would almost certainly go to Judge Greer unless there was a different judge for the first guardianship hearing in '93. I suppose it could go back to that guy if he's still serving.
To: shhrubbery!
Michael's lawsuit also seeks a removal of Terri's feeding tube for the third time. The Schindlers' petition asks the judge to allow them to be appointed Terri's guardian in place of Michael. BTW, in the event that the Schindlers prevail tomorrow (I know the courts are stacked against them, but the Florida statutes make clear that sexual cohabitation with anyone other than a spouse is grounds for removal of guardianship--even when such cohabitation doesn't constitute adultery against the ward) would Michael still have a legitimate case? Or would he no longer be a party to this matter?
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:20:37 PM PST
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: Ohioan from Florida
It would almost certainly go to Judge Greer unless there was a different judge for the first guardianship hearing in '93. I suppose it could go back to that guy if he's still serving. Do you think the legislature needs to be on call in case the judge declares that reproductive sex is not lewd and lacivious?
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:22:22 PM PST
by
supercat
(Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
To: sfRummygirl
"might be another troll." might be IS another troll. Read anything he's posted here or elsewhere.
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posted on
11/04/2003 9:25:19 PM PST
by
sweetliberty
("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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