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Demonstrators march against Iraq occupation
The Washington Times ^ | October 26, 2003 Page A9 | Denise Barnes and Judith Person

Posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:02 AM PST by sauropod

Busloads of antiwar demonstrators from a hundred American cities rallied in the District yesterday, calling for an end to the U.S.-led occupation of Iraq and demanding an immediate withdrawal of American troops.

Protesters from Maine and Colorado beat drums and chanted "Bring them home and impeach Bush" as they marched past the White House and the Justice Department yesterday afternoon. Many carried homemade placards that read, "Never Prouder to be a Non-Republican" and "Bush Lied — Americans Died."

Some donned fanciful costumes to underscore their views.

Dr. Alan Meyers, a pediatrician from Boston, came to the rally dressed as a missile. The protest, he said, showed the world "that Americans are dead set against what the Bush administration is up to — at home and abroad — and especially in Iraq."

"We never should have gone into Iraq in the first place," he said. "[The invasion] was based on a pack of lies."

The antiwar rally, which took place at the Mall, was the first major demonstration since May 1 when Mr. Bush declared an end to major combat in Iraq.

Organizers said the time was right to hold the rally and march because Americans were becoming increasingly suspicious of Mr. Bush's Iraq policy.

No weapons of mass destruction have been found in Iraq, they argue, and troop casualties are rising. So far, 108 have been killed by hostile fire since May 1. A total of 347 U.S. soldiers and Marines have died from hostile fire, accidents and other causes since Operation Iraqi Freedom began in March.

Organizers estimated that 100,000 people turned out for the demonstration, but police at the scene put the number much lower, from 10,000 to 20,000. U.S. Park Police no longer issue official crowd estimates, so the size of the protest could not be verified.

International ANSWER (Act Now to Stop War and End Racism) and United for Peace and Justice, which brought together about 600 groups, held similar demonstrations in San Francisco yesterday.

Mr. Bush was spending the weekend at Camp David in Maryland.

About 100 people held a simultaneous counterdemonstration on the other side of the Mall, near the Capitol.

The D.C. chapter of Free Republic, an independent conservative group, gathered to show support for Mr. Bush and the troops in Iraq. The group gathered under a banner that read, "God bless our soldiers' liberation the world of one tyrant at a time."

"I don't think [International ANSWER] should be the only loud, obnoxious voice here," said Mike Gregory, who traveled from New Hampshire to show his support for Mr. Bush's policies in Iraq.

Mark Walker, who had just returned from a military tour of Kuwait, said protests don't hurt the morale of military personnel as long as counterdemonstrations are held at the same time. "What hurts the morale is when the media only reports the negative," he said.

A moment of confrontation came when a dozen or more counterdemonstrators used bullhorns to shout at the antiwar protesters. They carried signs saying "Trust Jesus" and "God Hates You." Police on horses stood between the groups.

Before the march, peace activists and representatives of various interest groups criticized Mr. Bush's policies in Iraq.

Fernando de Solar Suarez, a father of a Marine who was killed in Iraq shortly after the war began, said the United States doesn't need any more deaths. "President Bush — wrongly called president — has lied to the entire world about this war," said Mr. Suarez, whose son Jesus was killed in action.

The Rev. Graylan Hagler of Plymouth Congregational Church in the District said the war was "built on a lie."

"We're standing up here today in D.C. ... We are the people. We understand the war was built on a lie," he told the protesters, who cheered. "It's time now to bring the troops home. It's time to send Bush packing back to Texas."

Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark told the crowd that the greatest threat to peace and security are Mr. Bush's policies, not terrorism. "This president made us international outlaws. Even in Australia, we can't go there without being jeered," he said as the protesters applauded. "What we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq is the greatest crime known."

Protester Zak Fayer can't vote yet, but the 16-year-old from New Jersey said he felt that it was important for him to attend the rally and march. The 10th-grader who attends Eastern High School in Voorhees, N.J., said he's politically active in school and predicts that Mr. Bush will not be re-elected.

"We should have never have been in Iraq. It's an illegal war," Zak said. "But, people coming together today will make a difference. The people's voice should be stronger than the White House's voice."

A group of about 300 military family members with Military Families Speak Out (MFSO) also joined the antiwar demonstrators.

"I don't think there is any reason for war," said Anne Alvallee, 44, of Massachusetts. She said she is a pacifist and that her father fought in Normandy during World War II.

As an organization, MFSO is opposed to the U.S.-led invasion and occupation of Iraq. Members gathered under a banner that said: "Military families say bring them home now!"


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To: maica
Yes, a Washington Times reporter was at the FR rally on the mall and interviewed several freepers.
21 posted on 10/26/2003 2:29:45 PM PST by YourAdHere (I see dead people....and they're voting for democrats)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
OK, you've modified what you originally stated though. I was thinking of how many joggers were murdered in DC last year, that's all. You had said originally:

...still lower than your chances of dying as a jogger in Washington D.C.

I understand now what you were saying and I'm not trying to make a big deal out of it. Comprehending our losses statistically, comparing them to other wars and city murder losses, makes the casualty figures seem minor. But as has been noted, they are impacting us in a way that still is very painful.

22 posted on 10/26/2003 3:20:33 PM PST by ThirstyMan
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To: sauropod

23 posted on 10/26/2003 7:06:40 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: AHerald
The left breathes and lieves for lies.

Here is the truth about Saddam:

24 posted on 10/26/2003 7:09:52 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: sauropod
Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark told the crowd that the greatest threat to peace and security are Mr. Bush's policies, not terrorism. "This president made us international outlaws. Even in Australia, we can't go there without being jeered," he said as the protesters applauded. "What we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq is the greatest crime known."

We all know that clark lost his mind years ago..do you think he could tell the families of 9/11 that horrible horrible comment he hatefully said??..just curious..

25 posted on 10/26/2003 8:39:15 PM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: YourAdHere; sauropod
After I posted the concern re the Washington Times article, I learned that they did a separate one about the DC Chapter Rally, and that article was quite positive.

Bottom line the contrast between supporters of both groups is enormous and easy to spot!
26 posted on 10/27/2003 4:00:21 AM PST by maica (Rush is in my prayers)
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To: sauropod; YourAdHere; jonalvy44; Angelwood; kristinn; Taxman
I was interviewed by the Washington Times yesterday.

I got a 7-8 second soundbyte on the 11:00 news for NBC-4, and another friend said I got a longer segment on the 6:00 news.

Thanks to all of you who worked so hard to put this event together!

27 posted on 10/27/2003 4:21:57 AM PST by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: sauropod
"U.S. Out, Saddam In!"

"No To Freedom, Yes to Torture!"


28 posted on 10/27/2003 4:44:18 AM PST by PogySailor
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To: Coop; sauropod
note the comic making light of the rocket attack on the hotel in iraq...Yeah, these guys really care about our country, eh?

http://dc.indymedia.org/media/all/display/16242/index.php
29 posted on 10/27/2003 7:22:18 AM PST by jonalvy44
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To: sauropod
"What we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq is the greatest crime known."

As opposed to 9/11, right?

We got 9/11 by being passive and reactive.

30 posted on 10/27/2003 7:45:26 AM PST by rudypoot
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To: halfdome
The population of Washington, DC is 572,000, the number of soldiers is approximately 130,000.

I think a better comparison is between the population of DC vs. the total population of Baghdad (or wherever those soldiers are), not the number of soldiers there. What it looks like, is that soldiers are safer in Iraq than in DC.

31 posted on 10/27/2003 10:34:56 AM PST by exDemMom (Happy to be on the side of light.)
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To: rudypoot
We got 9/11 by being passive and reactive.

Maybe you mean NON-reactive? I don't think Clinton ever made more than a token reaction to any of the many terrorist attacks that happened on his watch. With the evidence that we will not react, the terrorists felt free to escalate their campaign against us.

32 posted on 10/27/2003 10:38:41 AM PST by exDemMom (Happy to be on the side of light.)
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To: exDemMom
"Maybe you mean NON-reactive?"

Yes, I believe that is more accurate.

33 posted on 10/27/2003 12:07:13 PM PST by rudypoot
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To: sauropod
"Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark told the crowd that the greatest threat to peace and security are Mr. Bush's policies, not terrorism. 'This president made us international outlaws. Even in Australia, we can't go there without being jeered,' he said as the protesters applauded. 'What we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq is the greatest crime known.'"

I don't suppose that the instigators of 9-11 are guilty of any crime according to this type of ideology.
34 posted on 10/28/2003 9:23:29 AM PST by swaimh (Do your damndest in an ostentatious manner all the time -General George S. Patton)
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To: sauropod
Former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark told the crowd that the greatest threat to peace and security are Mr. Bush's policies, not terrorism. "This president made us international outlaws. Even in Australia, we can't go there without being jeered," he said as the protesters applauded. "What we've done in Afghanistan and Iraq is the greatest crime known."

This statement speaks volumes of the mentality we're dealing with.

- Which of Bush's policies? Not subordinating to the UN? Removing aggressor regimes?

- The greatest crime known?! Pol Pot's killing fields... Stalin's artificial famines... Hitler's holocaust and starting WWII... Tojo's rape of Nanking... Saddam's starting of two wars and using chemo weapons

Clinton Admin logic if I've ever seen it...
35 posted on 10/28/2003 3:30:41 PM PST by walford (Dogmatism swings both ways)
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To: ThirstyMan
Point well taken. I would like to toss out a reminder, however, that we are working with an all volunteer military. Some of these guys are "double" volunteers - they volunteered for the military, then volunteered again for service in Iraq. Please consider that comparisons of death rates are useful for scoring debating points, but the bottom line is that the, (relatively), light casualties are a result of people standing in harm's way in order to do the job they volunteered for. Am I trivializing their sacrifice? No. I believe that this enobles it.
P.S. Not giving you a hard time-just had my own slant to throw in.
36 posted on 10/28/2003 4:32:49 PM PST by Devlin (throwing my $0.004 in (after taxes))
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To: Elkhound4; Bubba_Leroy; ThirstyMan
First, sources: I have heard Secretary Rumsfeld make the DC streets-Iraqi streets comparison, and IIRC, he used specific numbers and dates. Also, I have seen this comparison in the Federalist newsletter; they compared the first 90 days after May 1st with the same period in DC, and found that we lost 52 soldiers and Marines while DC lost 66 citizens. Although not as long a period, it is telling that more people died violent deaths in Milwaukee County this past Memorial Day weekend than died in combat that entire week in Iraq.

Second, this analogy does not dilute the sacrifice of our soldiers, it instead serves the dual purpose of showing what a fantastic job they're doing and what a pathetic job DC public officials (and those in other cities) are doing. Iraq is somewhere around 165,000 square miles, has about 25 million citizens, and was an enemy nation until quite recently, but is now 95% pacified. DC is our freakin' capital, is around 70 square miles, has around 600,000 people, and the Dem losers who run it can't keep the streets safe for people who voted for them in droves. Saying it's safer to be an American in a war zone than in our capital does not dishonor those who have died for freedom in that war zone, it shames the men and women who are responsible for keeping our capital safe. They have failed in the first duty of government, which is to maintain public safety.

37 posted on 11/01/2003 4:15:19 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terry Schiavo.)
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To: walford
Even in Australia, we can't go there without being jeered," he said as the protesters applauded.

I can't imagine Ramsey Clarke can go anywhere without being jeered.

38 posted on 11/01/2003 4:21:59 PM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt: Pray for Terry Schiavo.)
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