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Saudis threaten to deport non-Muslim Ramadan violators
AP ^ | October 25, 2003

Posted on 10/25/2003 1:33:26 PM PDT by sarcasm

The Saudi government has warned Western residents they must not eat, drink and smoke in public during Ramadan.

The Interior Ministry said Wednesday that penalties would be imposed on any non-Muslim who violates the ban in shops, streets or places of work. Punishment could range from the termination of one's work contract to deportation.

"Being a non-Muslim is no excuse ... deterrent measures will be taken against violators," the ministry said in a statement carried by the official Saudi Press Agency.

There are an estimated two million non-Muslim foreigners living in Saudi Arabia, which has a population of about 19 million.

During Ramadan, Muslims refrain from eating, drinking and sex from dawn to dusk. Muslims believe it was during Ramadan about 1,400 years ago that the Quran, their holy book, was revealed to the Prophet Muhammad.

The US Embassy in Saudi Arabia has urged Americans to be "particularly vigilant" for terrorist attacks during Ramadan.

"It is the Embassy's assessment that terrorist groups may place special operational significance on the upcoming month of Ramadan," the US Embassy said in a warden message posted on its Web site.

Britain and Australia warned their citizens this week against travel to Saudi Arabia, with the British Foreign Office saying it had received information that "terrorists may be in the final phases of planning attacks" in the kingdom.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ramadan; saudiarabia
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I'm sure glad that they're so tolerant.
1 posted on 10/25/2003 1:33:27 PM PDT by sarcasm
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ROPMA.
2 posted on 10/25/2003 1:34:20 PM PDT by JusPasenThru (We're through being cool (you can say that again, Dad))
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To: sarcasm
ROPMA
3 posted on 10/25/2003 1:35:27 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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To: sarcasm

Theocracy = Tyrany PROAST!


4 posted on 10/25/2003 1:39:09 PM PDT by ChadGore (Kakkate Koi!)
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Meanwhile the world has to be tolerant enough to give a nonexistant people a nonexistant country i.e. 'palestine'
5 posted on 10/25/2003 1:42:26 PM PDT by battousai (What's the only thing more irrelavent than a RAT presidential candidate?.....France of course.)
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To: sarcasm
Let's deport Saudi non Christains.
6 posted on 10/25/2003 1:44:41 PM PDT by boomop1
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To: sarcasm
Islam is such a peaceful religion.

Are they allowed to have sex during Ramadahn?
7 posted on 10/25/2003 1:46:28 PM PDT by dinok
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"The Saudi government has warned Western residents they must not eat, drink and smoke in public during Ramadan."

Who put the bop in the bop-she-bop-she-bop,

who put the ram in the Rama-lama-dan-dong?

Who was that mullah,

he's one nasty fella,

he made me starve all freak - ing day long.

yeeaahhhh

8 posted on 10/25/2003 1:48:34 PM PDT by TheCrusader
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Also, sexual intercourse during daytime is prohibited. In this element, the period of observance is daily. It is not Islamic fasting when fasting takes place at night. Indeed, we are encouraged to break the fast without any delay as soon as the sun goes down. The proof for this first element is the saying of the Most High: "...And now associate with them and seek what Allah has ordained for you and eat and drink until the white thread of dawn appear to you distinct from its black thread." (Al-Qur`an 2:187)
This verse defines the time limits in which the worshiper is obligated to exercise abstinence. The first part of the verse is an indication of Allah's mercy upon the worshipers by making it easy for them during night hours in their relations with their spouses. For when verse (2:185) was revealed, it restricted daily as well as nightly relations with spouses. It was obviously difficult for the believers.
Imam Al-Qurtabi and others reported: Once Umar bin Al-Khataab (RAA) returned home late at night after visiting the Prophet (PBUH). When he came home, he felt the urge for his wife. So he slept with his wife, breaking the rule. Early in the morning he went to the Prophet (PBUH) and informed him about the incident. He said, "I seek pardon from Allah and you. My soul tempted me to have relations with my wife. Can you find a permission for me in this offense?" The Prophet, (PBUH), asked whether he really was serious about this. Umar (RAA) replied, "Yes". The Prophet (PBUH) did not have an answer for him, but told him Allah has to decide on this.
By the grace of Allah, before Umar arrived home, Allah (SWT) revealed verse (2:187), permitting believers to enjoy their wives during the night. So this is what the verse is referring to. It sets the limit of abstinence. It does so in metaphorical language draped with flair and beauty, as it describes the starting and the ending time of fast. Eat and drink until the white thread, i.e., the first rays of light finds its way through the dark horizon, the black thread. At that time, one must stop eating and start the observance of fasting.
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9 posted on 10/25/2003 1:50:58 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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""The Saudi government has warned Western residents they must not eat, drink and smoke in public during Ramadan."

It's their country and their religion. It is certainly not a hardship to not eat, drink, or smoke in public. Big deal.

(donning asbestos armor)
10 posted on 10/25/2003 1:57:11 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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Islam, in its current practiced form (Militant Islam), is a religion of tolerance no?
11 posted on 10/25/2003 2:11:24 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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It's their country and their religion. It is certainly not a hardship to not eat, drink, or smoke in public. Big deal.

During Passover you are not allowed to eat bread, among other things. Should Israel be allowed to deport those foreigners who eat bread in public (which it doesn't)?

12 posted on 10/25/2003 2:12:53 PM PDT by yonif ("If I Forget Thee, O Jerusalem, Let My Right Hand Wither" - Psalms 137:5)
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They should if they want to. Isn't there an old saying..."When in Rome, do as the Romans do", or something like that?
13 posted on 10/25/2003 2:18:46 PM PDT by halfdome
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To: sarcasm
Guess I won't stay at a Ramadan Inn anytime soon.
14 posted on 10/25/2003 2:26:49 PM PDT by Ben Hecks (9-11 was NOT a made-for-TV movie)
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"Should Israel be allowed to deport those foreigners who eat bread in public (which it doesn't)? "

Israel does what it chooses. It is a sovereign nation.

So, "allowed" is an absurd concept.
15 posted on 10/25/2003 2:31:07 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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What do Alaskan Muslims do when Ramadan falls in the middle of Summer?
16 posted on 10/25/2003 2:33:58 PM PDT by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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I agree with you, but, the problem lies when when the Saudi's fund Muslim charities and PAC's here in the US which demand "equal rights" for Muslims living here.
17 posted on 10/25/2003 2:35:37 PM PDT by Guillermo ( Proud Infidel)
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Complain that they are being humiliated?
18 posted on 10/25/2003 2:40:46 PM PDT by CathyRyan
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That is a different problem.

I do not give a damn about Saudi custom in S. We are not going to change the traditions to mimic those in the uS.

I fight PC here... and that is enuf to keep me busy. Yes, Saudi front groups have too much pol power here.

19 posted on 10/25/2003 2:41:18 PM PDT by At _War_With_Liberals
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During Ramadan, Muslims refrain from eating, drinking and sex from dawn to dusk.

Ah, but come dusk...look out!

20 posted on 10/25/2003 2:44:32 PM PDT by Salvey
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