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Think Before You Speak (Cathryn Crawford)
Washington Dispatch ^ | October 24, 2003 | Cathryn Crawford

Posted on 10/24/2003 8:29:20 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds

Today, I was sitting outside my education classroom waiting for a friend with whom I was having lunch. While I was relaxing, I could hear the sounds of a film that was being shown for a sexual trauma class next door. The door was open, and with careful listening, I figured out that the film being shown was an educational documentary about date rape. Curious, I moved my chair closer to the door so that I could hear more clearly. The more I heard, the more interested I became.

“Men are, by nature, predators”, explained the narrator. “Women, especially young women on college campuses, are surrounded by rapists. These rapists are in the guise of your closest male friends. You may think they are on your side, but you’d be wrong.”

This was only the beginning. After a few more statements – which I missed because I was scrambling for my notebook – the female narrator began to explain the warning signs that women should look for in their male friends to see if he was a rapist. The first signal, said the woman, was drinking. “Rapists tend to drink alcohol and become drunk at least once a month.” The second was a fondness for “exploitative men’s magazines.” The narrator listed Playboy and Penthouse as two of the magazines that are popular with rapists.

It sounded a bit ludicrous to me – assuming that guys who drink and look at Playboy are automatically rapists – especially college guys, since sometimes it seems that their only pastimes are drinking and looking at Playboy. This view, however, is typical of the paranoid outlook that some liberal feminists are teaching on college campuses.

On the other hand - there are so many varying ideas about rape these days that it’s hard to keep up with them all. There are people who think that women ask for rape by a look or a short skirt or a tight shirt, and there are people who think that any sex at all is rape, because men always prey on women. The pure version of these two ideas is served up mostly by fringe groups, but the more watered down versions are what get touted as truth to different groups of people at different times.

Sometimes the line between rape and intercourse is so finely drawn that it cannot be distinguished. There seems to be a new criterion for rape, which can be anything from saying no and then consenting to not specifically saying yes. There are new definitions of consent now. As Susan Estrich once put it: "Many feminists would argue that so long as women are powerless relative to men, viewing a 'yes' as a sign of true consent is misguided. For myself, I am quite certain that many women who say 'yes' to men they know, whether on dates or on the job, would say 'no' if they could. I have no doubt that women's silence sometimes is not the product of passion and desire but of pressure and fear."

Then, on the other hand, there are people (oddly enough, most seem to be women) who hear about a woman’s rape and immediately look for an excuse to justify the man’s behavior. This is the other side of the coin – but it’s equally wrong. There are brutal people in the world that will not hesitate to take advantage of someone weaker than themselves, and both women and men need to realize this. There cannot be excuses made for rapists.

That’s what rape boils down to: brutality. Rape is about power and violence, not about sex or the pursuit of sex or even lust. It is about dominance. It is not about regret the morning after, and it is not about whether the girl who was raped had consensual sex with another man the night before. It is about the act itself; it is about the emotional scarring that it causes; and it is about the physical damage that it causes.

Extreme definitions of rape don’t help rape victims. Instead, calluses build up on the public consciousness and more victims of rape find themselves being given the cold shoulder by the courts and by the press. It’s as though they are being raped all over again.

The truth is, before we open our mouths to discuss someone’s rape or accusations of rape, we should stop and think about the consequences of the ideas that we are promulgating. Are extreme opinions and ideas – from either side – going to help us see the issue of rape with more clarity, or less?

Cathryn Crawford is a student at the University of Texas. She can be reached at cathryncrawford@washingtondispatch.com.


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To: fml
I was referring to the statement that all men are predators. Any woman who can defend a rapist is just nuts. I just meant if ALL men were predators, and they were not being paid attention to, then their defense of a rapist would be sour grapes. Bad joke.

No, I understand now. Thanks for explaining it to me.

41 posted on 10/24/2003 9:18:49 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Los vientos y la lluvia lo han lavado limpio.)
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To: Scenic Sounds; Cathryn Crawford
I started to respond to the article, but posting could be construed, albeit very narrowly, as a form of stalking if done to extreme. The fact that it lies along the stalking continuum at all means we are talking stalking while arguing only over degree. Stalking can be a form of sublimated rape, and since in lies along the continuum... Feminist paranoia: don't try it at home.
42 posted on 10/24/2003 9:19:28 AM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com/)
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To: Scenic Sounds
BTTT
43 posted on 10/24/2003 9:19:42 AM PDT by hattend
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To: Scenic Sounds
Feminist's Specious Reasoning hasn't changed since I was on campus fiftee......(cough) several years ago. It's the primary reason why I became conservative.

Disgusting. And their definition of rape trivializes those that have suffered through the actual crime.

Campus Feminism has nothing to do with empowering women. It's only about Power, period. It achieves this by denigrating all men and belittling women that are capable of rising above the herd and individually accomplishing something.

I'm in a technical, male-dominated field. The women that I work with are some of the most independent and intelligent women that I know, and they'd all, to a woman, be incredibly offended if it was suggested that they got to their positions by anything other than hard work (they'd be right, too!). Not a lot of room for affirmative action or feminism when the fortunes of the company are riding on the decisions made. And I've sat through hundreds of meeting where managers have wished aloud for two more engineers, or techs, or electricians, or doctors, or......etc etc etc. Never been in one where anybody said "If only we had one more Women's Studies major, we could get this project done." That's the most telling ancedote of all, I think.

/rant off. Thanks for listening!

44 posted on 10/24/2003 9:19:55 AM PDT by wbill
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To: facedown; Wright is right!
If the word whom will impress y'all that much, I will often use it. ROFL
45 posted on 10/24/2003 9:20:02 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Los vientos y la lluvia lo han lavado limpio.)
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To: Question_Assumptions
Don't ask me why, but your post brought back a memory from eighth grade. Our local Sheriff had a deputy who was deemed the deputy in charge of "juves" and one of his duties was to educate us "juves" at the school.

Well, I don't know what got into him, but he decided that one day we "juves" needed to learn the truth about rape by way of demostrative evidence. He held a small Coke bottle in his hand and challenged one of the female "juves" to try to stick her pencil into the hole as he moved it back and forth very quickly. She couldn't do it, of course.

So, that's how the "juves" at my school learned the truth about rape in the sixties. ;-)

46 posted on 10/24/2003 9:20:12 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sé esta vieja calle. Puede ser muy peligroso.)
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To: Freebird Forever
Uh-Oh...does that mean Bill Clinton is a - gasp! - rapist or not a man? Inquiring minds...
47 posted on 10/24/2003 9:20:15 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Scenic Sounds
I wonder how one is supposed to act with the odd female for whom resisting is a big turn-on. I knew a girl in Dallas many years ago who could not be fully aroused unless she put up some resistance. She fully admitted to me that she liked being "forced" to do things, such as kissing after oral s#x. She had a big list of no-no's, which were actually things that really turned her on but only if the man "made" her do them.

She was a fun gal, but her "fetish," if you will, was being forced. Our relationship lasted many months, and that's always the way she liked it.

Michael

48 posted on 10/24/2003 9:20:51 AM PDT by Wright is right! (Never get excited about ANYTHING by the way it looks from behind.)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
And to whom did you really address that remark?
49 posted on 10/24/2003 9:20:57 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sé esta vieja calle. Puede ser muy peligroso.)
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To: Scenic Sounds
Rapists tend to drink alcohol and become drunk at least once a month

Hmmm... if you're not getting drunk at least once a month in college, you're doing something wrong.

50 posted on 10/24/2003 9:21:51 AM PDT by Modernman ("I'm just a simple man, trying to make my way in the universe."- Jango Fett)
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To: Wright is right!
She was a fun gal, but her "fetish," if you will, was being forced. Our relationship lasted many months, and that's always the way she liked it.

Well, there is a new brand of condoms on the market that comes with a consent form. Perhaps you should invest.

(I'm being serious. There really is.)

51 posted on 10/24/2003 9:22:28 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Los vientos y la lluvia lo han lavado limpio.)
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To: gcruse
Feminist paranoia: don't try it at home.

I never knew you were a feminist, Gary. :-)

52 posted on 10/24/2003 9:23:12 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Los vientos y la lluvia lo han lavado limpio.)
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To: BlessedByLiberty
IMO, Bill Clinton is a rapist.
53 posted on 10/24/2003 9:23:35 AM PDT by Freebird Forever
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To: Scenic Sounds
Hmmm liberals best be careful traveling on this road cuz Ms Broadrick is waiting at the intersection of Jones & Willy.
54 posted on 10/24/2003 9:24:05 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Scenic Sounds
What is left out is how utterly insulting these lectures are to young women. If I were a woman, prone to having pre-marital sex, it would insult me beyond words to think that my decision to have sex was somehow not my own. I thought the ideas behind all these groups were to empower women. This makes women into silly little twits that have no control over their lives.
55 posted on 10/24/2003 9:25:16 AM PDT by whereasandsoforth (tagged for migratory purposes only)
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To: Freebird Forever
After seeing Ms Broadrick (sp) interviewed, I have no doubt in my mind that you are correct.
56 posted on 10/24/2003 9:25:32 AM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: Freebird Forever
IMO, Bill Clinton is a rapist.

couldn't agree with you more...especially since he actually DID rape someone - I think her name was "The American Public"

Me sound bitter...me wonder why...me also sound like me was educated in publik skool

57 posted on 10/24/2003 9:25:55 AM PDT by Jinjelsnaps ("Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana" - Groucho Marx)
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To: wbill
"If only we had one more Women's Studies major, we could get this project done."

Great post! I've never understood that major.

58 posted on 10/24/2003 9:26:20 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Los vientos y la lluvia lo han lavado limpio.)
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To: whereasandsoforth
What is left out is how utterly insulting these lectures are to young women. If I were a woman, prone to having pre-marital sex, it would insult me beyond words to think that my decision to have sex was somehow not my own. I thought the ideas behind all these groups were to empower women. This makes women into silly little twits that have no control over their lives.

You're missing completely the political dimensions of sexuality. Obviously, it's been going right over your head. ;-)

59 posted on 10/24/2003 9:27:11 AM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Sé esta vieja calle. Puede ser muy peligroso.)
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To: whereasandsoforth
This makes women into silly little twits that have no control over their lives.

It devalues women. It takes away their dignity and their independence.

60 posted on 10/24/2003 9:27:22 AM PDT by Cathryn Crawford (Los vientos y la lluvia lo han lavado limpio.)
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