10/18/03 -- Jeb's Emails to FR poster, summer, today, re: Terri. (And, a Message to Michael Shiavo)

10/18/03 | summer's emails with Gov Bush

[summer]

Note to FR: I am posting here an email conversation I had today with Gov Bush about Terri, and yes, he knows I am posting it here on FR.

In my reply #1, located below this post of Gov Bush’s email, I have posted a message from me to Terri’s husband. And, no, I did not discuss with anyone my idea here to write to Terri’s husband. No one suggested it to me. Nor did I discuss it with anyone at all.

In my next reply, reply #2 below, I hope to post a message to my friends here on FR. And, while I would like to respond to each reply that may be posted on this thread, I can not. Due to a pressing personal matter, I will not be able to respond tonight.

However, my thoughts and prayers and hopes remain with each person involved in this matter.

God bless.

summer

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----- Original Message -----
From: [summer]
To: Jeb Bush
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: …question for you…

Gov Bush,

Thank you, and I have no doubt you would move Heaven and Earth for her if you could.

Sincerely, [summer]

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:42 PM
Subject: …question for you…

I cannot offer much hope. I am sickened by this situtation and pray for her family. We have looked at every angle, every legal possibility and will continue to do so. It is clear that we need to make living wills the norm for families in our state. Too few people use them.

Jeb

-----Original Message-----
From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:38 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: Re: …question for you…

Thank you for your response, Gov Bush. Before I post this, can you provide any measure of hope for a legal way to preserve this woman's life? To think that all her parents want to do is care for her and not see her starve to death, is, I think, not asking for a lot in this world. My own parents would feel the same way about me, I am sure[…]

[summer]

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeb Bush
To: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:07 PM
Subject: …question for you…

this was tried in the courts I believe and was rejected.

jeb

-----Original Message-----

From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 4:03 PM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: …question for you…

Is there a way you can utilize Family Law as it pertains to abandonment of a spouse -- on the grounds of lack of sexual contact -- so that the path can be cleared for him to be legally removed by the state or her family as a husband?

-----Original Message-----

From: Jeb Bush
Sent: Oct 18, 2003 1:47 PM
To: [summer]
Subject: …question for you…

Unfortunately, I cannot issue an executive order when there is a court order upheld at every level in the judiciary. Mr. Shiavo is the legal guardian and I can't override that fact. I wish I could but I have no legal authority to do so.

Jeb

-----Original Message-----
From: [summer]
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Jeb Bush
Subject: …question for you…

Can you use your authority to issue an Executive Order, to place her in a different hospice that has no connection to her husband, as a temporary stop measure to [get] this woman back on feeding -- so that you have the time necessary to review whatever other options may exist for you? This current situation with her removed from the tubes will result in an irrevocable situation.

[MHGinTN]

Does someone have a calculator? By 1:45pm Monday, how long will it have been since Terri's last food and water?

[Graymatter]

Here's the myflorida page with the notice about special session:

http://www.flsenate.gov/Welcome/index.cfm

[deport]

It's apparently a planned special session for the matter in the article in the post above.....

The Terri Bill is an add on apparently and needs the 2/3rds approval to be considered....

[mtbopfuyn]

Does someone have a calculator? By 1:45pm Monday, how long will it have been since Terri's last food and water?

It probably won't be brought up until the last of the day despite Terri needing every second she can get. I'm very much afraid it will be too late as damage will have begun. I'm not giving up hope, just sadly facing facts. I'm betting this news is not setting well with the monster. If I were her mom, I'd be peeing in my chair rather than leaving him alone with her for one moment.

[MHGinTN]

Of course, you realize that this legislation (if it surfaces for up or down vote) is not actually for Terri though it may bear her name. I'll give you three guesses for whom this is raised

[pollywog]

It probably won't be brought up until the last of the day despite Terri needing every second she can get. I'm very much afraid it will be too late as damage will have begun. I'm not giving up hope, just sadly facing facts. I'm betting this news is not setting well with the monster. If I were her mom, I'd be peeing in my chair rather than leaving him alone with her for one moment.

I am confused as to how this works. If the BILL is introduced, and vote taken and passed to be a add on, will the TUBE be able to be re-inserted at that moment??? Or do they have to wait for the entire bill to be passed??....some 3 days later??

Judicially challenged mind here needs help!!

[Carolinamom]

LP poster TLBSHOW, banned from FR, has a thread snearing about Jeb Bush's spending his time sending Freeper summer e-mails rather than (in his opinion)doing something about Terri.

[summer]

He should be writing about our favorite, Mr. Pitt. :)

[summer]

I'll give you three guesses for whom this is raised

Well, I am clueless here. I thought it had to do with Terri since Gov Bush has been bombarded with communications about this matter.

[summer]

Re post #352 - I believe that was an issue Gov Bush raised early on in this matter.

[mtbopfuyn]

Judge Greer made at least one big mistake, which will hopefully be his undoing. He has failed to appoint a guardian ad litem as required by law.

I thought she had one at one time but Greer kicked him out. Whatever, here's hoping this miscalculation takes a big bite out of him.

[MHGinTN]

If legislation passes, it will benefit those endangered by the euthanasia movement geared up in Florida. That's one beneficiary. The likelihood of this being passed in time to save Terri from deteriorating is very low and it may not be written as retroactive so it may not even effect her plight. That leaves the CYA scenario for soemone who should have acted to save Terri, then dealt with the political fallout. He had the legal authority to act but chose not too for political reasons, IMHO.

[Graymatter]

www.wtlv.com/news/news-article.aspx?storyid=9486

News about Bush special session action for Terri

[Graymatter]

http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=35161

[deport]

JOHNNIE BYRD Today's activities

[JulieRNR21]

The Legislature cannot pass retroactive laws.

I never posted the above statement....you have answered to me in error.

[BenR2]

Did they have two different mothers?????


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Nope. I believe each (W. and Jeb) converted to his wife's religion.

[supercat]

I thought she had one at one time but Greer kicked him out. Whatever, here's hoping this miscalculation takes a big bite out of him.

You're right; I'm getting tired and oversimplfying things. But if any malfeasance were shown in Terri's accounts, Judge Greer could be seriously on the hook, whereas if he'd appointed a "yes man" guardian ad lib, neither he nor the yes man would be on the hook.

[ambrose]

Yes, Jeb Bush wrote those responses.

Jeb Bush is one of the few big name politicians who actually reads and responds to his emails. There have been some articles written about this.

[MSCASEY]

I just pray that he gets something done today! That was a good Florida Statute that you have, the problem is that no one is following the law. There are so many things that are obvious in this case and corruption in many of our courts is rampant.

I have seen this personally!

MCD