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To: Jack Black
Ronald Reagan spear-headed a massive illegal alien amnesty program in the 1980's. Just like Bush is trying to do now.

There's lots of good reasons to do so. So, if you liked Reagan, and you like Bush...think a bit about why both of these great men are in support of Amnesty programs.
8 posted on 10/17/2003 6:00:28 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
You forgot to tell the other half of the story behind the "Amnesty Bill" passed under Reagan. The feds were supposed to crack down on the "new crop" of illegal aliens after the bill became law. They didn't. The bill did not stem, slow or curb the illegal alien invasion as advertised.

As to "liking" any politician because they are repeating a mistake made by another...

"There is no education in the second kick of a mule."

Hatch has been one of "them" too long and needs to be replaced.

9 posted on 10/17/2003 7:13:25 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
>> Ronald Reagan spear-headed a massive illegal alien amnesty program in the 1980's. Just like Bush is trying to do now. There's lots of good reasons to do so <<

Reagan's advisors talked him into signing a "ONE TIME ONLY" (so much for that, eh?) amnesty bill because it would supposely clear up all the paperwork dealing with illegal vs. legal aliens in the U.S. and they could just give everyone citizenship and then put guards on the borders to prevent any future problems. It didn't work, and of course, the result was vast amounts of INCREASED illegal immigration because all those criminals figured THEY could get amnesty down the line sometime too (and if George W. Bush has his way, they were right) Reagan's adminstration regretted ever signing that after they saw it tripled the illegal immigration problem instead of ending it.

The amnesty deal also proved that Republican pandering to illegal criminals does NOT cause them to go out and vote GOP. Quite the opposite, actually. Reagan got a MUCH higher percentage of the "hispanic vote" in '80 and '84 BEFORE promising amnesty than Bush got in '88 AFTER amnesty has already been granted. All those newly "legalized" citzens rushed out and pulled the Democrat level. The only "hispanics" voting Republican were law-abiding taxpayers, most of which were born here anyway. In the last election, first-time immigrant voters went Democrat by 90% and Republican by 6%. Good thing all those guys are "social conservatives", eh? They must have accidentially voted for a bunch of pro-abortion, gay-marriage totin, gun-grabbing Democrats. Oopsy.

You asked if he like Ronald Reagan. I like Reagan, despite his goof-up on amnesty that he later came to deeply regret. Do you like the Republican platform? Because it has said for 120 years that there are lots of BAD reasons for helping ILLEGAL criminals. If you're looking for someone who likes the idea, try the Democrat, Green, or Socialist Party platforms. They LOVE open borders.

12 posted on 10/17/2003 9:19:18 PM PDT by BillyBoy (George Ryan deserves a long term...without parole.)
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Ronald Reagan spear-headed a massive illegal alien amnesty program in the 1980's. ...There's lots of good reasons to do so.

The main reason being that nominally Republican Chamber of Commerce types (who ought to know better when it comes to promoting disrespect for our laws and our borders) can keep flooding our job markets with cheap Mexican labor to artificially depress US workers wages and benefits.

13 posted on 10/17/2003 10:14:45 PM PDT by pawdoggie
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To: Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh
Just because Reagan supported an amnesty and I liked Reagan doesn't mean I agreed with that particular policy of his. Nor does it mean because something may have been a good idea 20 years ago it still makes sense.

I lived in California for 10 years. There is nothing you can tell me about illegal immigration that will make me think it is OK, or that it is in anyway desirable to make all these criminal invaders citizens.

I like a lot about Bush, but when it comes to this topic he is either naive, cynical or stupid.

15 posted on 10/19/2003 10:20:16 AM PDT by Jack Black
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