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America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say
LP Press Release ^ | October 16, 2003 | Libertarian Party Press

Posted on 10/16/2003 10:48:07 AM PDT by noprob

The entire nation owes radio broadcaster Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say, because his ordeal has exposed every drug warrior in America as a rank hypocrite.

"One thing we don't hear from American politicians very often is silence," said Joe Seehusen, Libertarian Party executive director. "By refusing to criticize Rush Limbaugh, every drug warrior has just been exposed as a shameless, despicable hypocrite.

"And that's good news, because the next time they do speak up, there'll be no reason for anyone to listen."

The revelation that Limbaugh had become addicted to painkillers -- drugs he is accused of procuring illegally from his Palm Beach housekeeper -- has caused a media sensation ever since the megastar's shocking, on-air confession last week.

As the Limbaugh saga continues, here's an important question for Americans to ask, Libertarians say: Why are all the drug warriors suddenly so silent?

"Republican and Democratic politicians have written laws that have condemned more than 400,000 Americans to prison for committing the same 'crime' as Rush Limbaugh," Seehusen pointed out. "If this pill-popping pontificator deserves a get-out-of-jail-free card, these drug warriors had better explain why."

Given their longstanding support for the Drug War, it's fair to ask:

Why haven't President George Bush or his tough-on-crime attorney general, John Ashcroft, uttered a word criticizing Limbaugh's law-breaking?

Why aren't drug czar John P. Walters or his predecessor, Barry McCaffrey, lambasting Limbaugh as a menace to society and a threat to "our children?"

Why aren't federal DEA agents storming Limbaugh's $30 million Florida mansion in a frantic search for criminal evidence?

Why haven't federal, state, and local police agencies seized the celebrity's homes and luxury cars under asset-forfeiture laws?

Finally, why aren't bloviating blabbermouths like William Bennett publicly explaining how America would be better off if Limbaugh were prosecuted, locked in a steel cage and forced to abandon his wife, his friends, and his career?

The answer is obvious, Seehusen said: "America's drug warriors are shameless hypocrites who believe in one standard of justice for ordinary Americans and another for themselves, their families and their political allies.

"That alone should completely discredit them."

But there's an even more disturbing possibility, Seehusen said: that the people who are prosecuting the Drug War don't even believe in its central premise -- which is that public safety requires that drug users be jailed.

"The Bushes and Ashcrofts and McCaffreys of the world may believe, correctly, that individuals fighting a drug addiction deserve medical, not criminal treatment," he said. "That would explain why they're not demanding that Limbaugh be jailed.

"But if that's the case, these politicians have spent decades tearing apart American families for their own political gain. And that's an unforgivable crime."


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To: CWOJackson
In truth I'd say they're loosing ground with this latest effort. I haven't seen anyone announce that they are now going to pursue the LP agenda because of these threads, but there have been several who have announced their final and complete end with any LP association

I have seen that also.

People don't like it when a person is on the ground, begging forgiveness, and someone is kicking them in the groin and that is exactly what the Libertarians on FR are doing to Rush.

Of course, the die hard Libertarians will say that is what Pubbies did to Clinton, but can you tell me where Rush pointed his finger at me on national TV with Marta by his side and said " I am not addicted to prescription medication ".

261 posted on 10/16/2003 3:00:59 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
What did I tell you?
262 posted on 10/16/2003 3:01:05 PM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: jmc813
What did I tell you?

You tell me, this isn't 20 questions.

263 posted on 10/16/2003 3:02:48 PM PDT by Dane
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To: noprob
FREE RUSH!
264 posted on 10/16/2003 3:03:31 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: Dane
You tell me, this isn't 20 questions.

About how the Boss doesn't like to be bothered with our nonsense.

265 posted on 10/16/2003 3:04:14 PM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: LouD
the question is whether drugs are used less than they would be, had we done nothing. If we have constrained drug activity at all

I think things are far worse since we have criminalized it. Gangs run the streets, disease and corruption are everywhere.

Your right the price is higher, but price doesn't matter to an addict.

Programs to keep kids off drugs and treatment programs cost a fraction as much as locking someone up. To that point, we can't even keep drugs out of jail.. How are we supposed to keep them off the street?

I don't want the government telling our kids drugs are good, I just don't think they are doing any good at all criminalizing it.

Ask a kid which he has an easier time of getting, pot or a Budweiser.. I guarantee it's not a Budweiser. You can't think this is working...

Look at the bright side, we spend hundreds of billions of our hard owned dollars on something to make a few think they are doing some good... This doesn't decrease demand at all.. Do you know of anyone who has wanted to do drugs, that didn't because it's illegal?

266 posted on 10/16/2003 3:07:56 PM PDT by noprob
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To: Servant of the 9
No, let me put it in the form of a statement rather than a question.

Alcohol abuse over the years has cost society far more than Prohibition.

Based on that, if we legalized and regulated all drugs, 70 years from now people will be saying the same thing about drugs.

Which means, I don't agree with your statement.

267 posted on 10/16/2003 3:09:38 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dane; jmc813
Dane:
Then why did you jmc813, drag Jim into the arguement(jmc813 reply #217 of this thread) in the first place.
-dane-




To show people that yes, you can be a strong conservative and think the Federal Drug War stinks. I'm just an anonymous schmuck on a web site. Who cares what I think? Jim is well known as running the greatest site on the web. How is quoting someone you respect "dragging them into" something?
240 -jmc-




JMO, you are going to remain a anymonous little schmuck if you continue to hide behind Jim.
Do you really want to go down the tpaine route on FR?
244 -Dane-




I'm not exactly sure what the "tpaine" route is, but if you're threatening that I'll be banned, I'm not worried.
-jmc-





Uh no the tpaine route, is hiding behind Jim, while you are rightly ridiculed for hiding behind someone(in this case the owner of the forum), instead of defending your own arguements.
-dale-





Bizarro daneo... Dragging me into a spat, because I occasionally quote JR.. -- Big deal..

Cite even one example of my 'hiding behind the owner of the forum', instead of defending my own arguments.

You can't, because you're a pitiful, delusional sack of BS..


268 posted on 10/16/2003 3:10:48 PM PDT by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: jmc813
About how the Boss doesn't like to be bothered with our nonsense

Not "our" nonsense, your nonsense. The record of this thread shows that you brought about the nonsense to the boss with your reply #217 of this thread.

Maybe you have learned a lesson. That you should make your own arguements instead of hiding behind others.

BTW, isn't that the Libertarian creed, "rugged individualism". JMO, it isn't very rugged or individualistic when you try to have others make your point.

269 posted on 10/16/2003 3:11:08 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Jim Robinson
I haven't 'pinged' you..
270 posted on 10/16/2003 3:13:18 PM PDT by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: jmc813
"About how the Boss doesn't like to be bothered with our nonsense."

You guys pi$$ed off Bruce Springsteen??

271 posted on 10/16/2003 3:13:36 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: Dane
Not "our" nonsense, your nonsense. The record of this thread shows that you brought about the nonsense to the boss with your reply #217 of this thread.

He could care less about people quoting him. It was your pinging him that annoyed him.

Maybe you have learned a lesson. That you should make your own arguements instead of hiding behind others.

I do make my own arguments. Like I said, ask me anything and I'll give you my honest opinion.

BTW, isn't that the Libertarian creed, "rugged individualism".

I wouldn't know. I'm a Republican and not a Libertarian. I don't like the LP.

272 posted on 10/16/2003 3:14:41 PM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: tpaine
Let it go. Jim has enough BS to concern himself with these days than having to worry about some stupid WOD thread.
273 posted on 10/16/2003 3:15:41 PM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: robertpaulsen
You guys pi$$ed off Bruce Springsteen??

I think I'm the only person in NJ who cannot see the appeal of Bruce. Everyone flipps the heck out whenever he tours, but I find his music mediocre at best. Clarence Clemens is a great sax player though.

274 posted on 10/16/2003 3:17:17 PM PDT by jmc813 (Ron Paul for President in '08!)
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To: noprob
"Ask a kid which he has an easier time of getting, pot or a Budweiser.."

Ask kids what drug they're using, pot or Budweiser. Twice as many teens use alcohol than pot.

275 posted on 10/16/2003 3:17:45 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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To: jmc813
He could care less about people quoting him. It was your pinging him that annoyed him

Really, so you are a mind reader now. Still doesn't negate the fact that you hide behind some one else to make a point, instead of making your own.

Oh well, this is to good to pass up, but how does it feel to be the "hypocrite" of the Libertarian creed of "rugged individualism" on FR.

The facts are there jmc, you couldn't make your own point, you had to depend on somebody else.

276 posted on 10/16/2003 3:19:57 PM PDT by Dane
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To: robertpaulsen
Alcohol abuse over the years has cost society far more than Prohibition.

Do you have a single argument that doesn't rely on logical fallacy?

277 posted on 10/16/2003 3:20:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic (Controlled application of force is the sincerest form of communication.)
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To: jmc813
Let 'it' go?

I simply informed JR that I didn't ping him or initiate this silly teapot tempest..
Get a grip...
278 posted on 10/16/2003 3:22:01 PM PDT by tpaine (I'm trying to be 'Mr Nice Guy', but Arnie won, & politics as usual lost. Yo!)
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To: noprob
Exactly why any libertarian with a lick of sense wants nothing to do with the nutballs at the Libertarian Party.

Remember the LP candidate who turned himself smurf blue?
279 posted on 10/16/2003 3:23:40 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat (www.firemackbrown.com)
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To: jmc813
Saw this great (young) Mexican comedian in Vegas years ago. Empty stage, you hear the instrumental of a Springsteen song, and he comes out on stage with a boom box on his shoulder singing, "Born in the joo ess aye".

Did his whole bit on illegals. I was crying.

280 posted on 10/16/2003 3:25:16 PM PDT by robertpaulsen
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