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America owes talk host Rush Limbaugh a debt of gratitude, Libertarians say
LP Press Release ^ | October 16, 2003 | Libertarian Party Press

Posted on 10/16/2003 10:48:07 AM PDT by noprob

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To: noprob
This is always the response of detractors.. It's just very easy for a Libertarian to use the WOD as ammunition to how big government screws EVERYTHING up...

Huh, there was no big government back in 19th century China when opium devastated Chinese society.

Oh that's right, you are a Harry Browne worshipper. So you are pining for the days when any 10 year old during the early 20th century could walk into any pharmacy and buy heroin laced aspirin off the shelf, never mind.

161 posted on 10/16/2003 1:07:09 PM PDT by Dane
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To: noprob
I've done very well, thanks for asking, particularly with people in my life who have either fallen into addiction and needed a good friend, or to younger kinds I know who needed a good example and counseling about the issue to help them avoid the scene entirely.

If you can't see that as good, then of course that would speak volumes for you.
162 posted on 10/16/2003 1:08:00 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Dane
Hey! The druggie is here! Welcome dane! Always nice to see a druggie hypocrite when the thread topic is drug hypocrites!
163 posted on 10/16/2003 1:09:12 PM PDT by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: noprob
Rush himself....

My inquiry was about the quantity and the type of drug used. To the best of my knowledge, Rush has not specified either.

164 posted on 10/16/2003 1:09:32 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Tall_Texan
Losertarians will say anything to promote their agenda.
165 posted on 10/16/2003 1:09:59 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: VRWC_minion
If he was a lower middle class hispanic who did exactly the same thing he would have been jailed long ago.

Like the maid who has immunity or the middle class pharmacist who is being charged ?

She got immunity by selling her testimony to the Feds, hardly typical, and the pharmacist seems to be a major drug baron, hardly middle class.

The WOD reminds me a lot of Vietnam. Conservatives all for killing commies, but lets not send my kid, he needs to go to college. Or if he has to go, lets make him an officer and keep him in the rear, or the National Guard.

Now they want to fight drugs, but not if it involves jailing their kid, then they gotta pull strings and get him defered adjudication for rolling over on some low grade dealer.

I was one of those who avoided Vietnam with a college deferment, but I never sank so low as to think I deserved it. It was a rotten corrupt system then, and it made it impossible to keep enough public support to win the war the troops could have won. The WOD faces the same problem. Until everyone is willing to see Rush and their friends and family who break or bend the law do hard time, the whole thing is an expensive farce.

Time to declare victory and drop the whole thing.

So9

166 posted on 10/16/2003 1:10:14 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: HitmanNY
If that question is not rhetorical, you should pose it to the Libertarian Party, not me. If I would answer it, I would say "it does not."
167 posted on 10/16/2003 1:10:43 PM PDT by Petronski (I'm *NOT* always *CRANKY*.)
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To: Petronski
Oh darn. Somehow you think I wasted time on trying to insult you. I must correct you, I would never attempt to compete with the fine job you're doing on yourself.
168 posted on 10/16/2003 1:11:43 PM PDT by CWOJackson
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To: Protagoras
Rush did not specify the drug or how many were taken.

What is your source for which drug and how many he took?
169 posted on 10/16/2003 1:11:45 PM PDT by kidd
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To: Dane
"Huh, there was no big government back in 19th century China when opium devastated Chinese society."

WAKE UP, our society is being devistated, not by drugs, but by the War On Drugs.

"Oh that's right, you are a Harry Browne worshipper. So you are pining for the days when any 10 year old during the early 20th century could walk into any pharmacy and buy heroin laced aspirin off the shelf, never mind."

They can buy it today in there school... You see my point, it's worthless to waste our money on it this way.. If they were legal, we could have age limits similar to alcohol... Talk to a kid you know, ask them which is easier to get, alcohol or pot..
170 posted on 10/16/2003 1:12:55 PM PDT by noprob
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To: Servant of the 9
Oh, so maybe like Jeb Bush's daughter ?
171 posted on 10/16/2003 1:14:00 PM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Protagoras
Hey! The druggie is here! Welcome dane! Always nice to see a druggie hypocrite when the thread topic is drug hypocrites!

You know, JMO, maybe a good career move for you would be to send your resume to Al Franken. You sure do throw out the term "hypocrite" like candy. You would make a good fit in his office, IMO, especially if the foam coming out of your replies, is matched when you speak.

172 posted on 10/16/2003 1:14:27 PM PDT by Dane
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To: kidd
Rush did not specify the drug or how many were taken.

You are mistaken. They are the drugs I described. He said he was addicted to "pain medication". He said he was addicted. The amount I described was "enough to cause addiction".

What is your source for which drug and how many he took?

Again, Rush Limbaugh.

173 posted on 10/16/2003 1:15:28 PM PDT by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: VRWC_minion
Oh, so maybe like Jeb Bush's daughter ?

Exactly.
If we are gonna have a WOD, then people like her should do hard time the first time, not after God only knows how many chances.

So9

174 posted on 10/16/2003 1:15:50 PM PDT by Servant of the 9 (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Let's Roll
Losertarians will say anything to promote their agenda.

Shhhh, they are very secretive that they follow the Clinton model.

175 posted on 10/16/2003 1:16:06 PM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
The person foaming at the mouth is you. A druggie who seeks out these type of threads to fuel his obsession of hate against libertarians. You are seriously ill.
176 posted on 10/16/2003 1:17:12 PM PDT by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Petronski
It's not rhetorical, and I wonder what would make you think it was. You asked me what good I have done, in a rude and confrontational way, which is unfortunate since I have been neither rude nor confrontational to you.

You asked what good I have done, and I told you. If you would say that my actions are not good, that of course is a matter of opinion, and as I said that would speak volumes for you.

Mind you, you don't know what I think about our national drug policy. For all you know, I could have my position against drug use, use mmy influence as a friend and role model to help people handle or avoid addiction, be against the policy as it has been executed now, and still not agree that federally subsidized housing could be the answer.

Then again, I can have a different opinion. Who knows? Certainly not anyone who hasn't asked me.

Keep the faith, kimosabe. The world isn't as nice a place to live in when approached in some ways. I don't know your approach, so I just thought I'd point that out
177 posted on 10/16/2003 1:18:38 PM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: Servant of the 9
Exactly. If we are gonna have a WOD, then people like her should do hard time the first time, not after God only knows how many chances.

Uh could you holier than thou Libertarians show where Noelle Bush got off scot free?

You can't, but what the hey, you have your Carvillian tactics to revel in, while you all push your prime directive.

Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs,.....

178 posted on 10/16/2003 1:19:01 PM PDT by Dane
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To: HitmanNY
I've done very well, thanks for asking, particularly with people in my life who have either fallen into addiction and needed a good friend, or to younger kinds I know who needed a good example and counseling about the issue to help them avoid the scene entirely.

This is exactly what I want people to do, let's lean on support groups and churches, not on the government controlling us... Government control does not work. I actually think you agree with me, or you would leave it up to the war on drugs to solve the ills you speak of.

See, I think you are a libertarian after all. You didn't say anything about throwing the worthless users in the pen for 10 years. You wanted to treat the problem and attack it on a proper front.. In private citizens hands, not some judge or politician...
179 posted on 10/16/2003 1:19:27 PM PDT by noprob
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To: Dane
Drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs, drugs,.....

LOL, your obsession. You show up on every thread like this. YOU are the obsessed one. Seek help. The drugs you took and trafficked in have affected your mental abilities.

180 posted on 10/16/2003 1:22:34 PM PDT by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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