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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

That would be a takedown.

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Howard the Dunce.

[GrandEagle]

I deny.... therefore it isn't

[Dr. Frank fan]

In all fairness, I'm with Dean on this one. If you look at his original quote, it's clear that he wasn't saying "the ends of getting the Husseins do not justify the means of the use of American military intelligence". He was saying ""the ends of getting the Husseins do not justify the means of invading Iraq." That's what he's supposed to say, he's the (D) favorite anti-war candidate, all his quotes are about that. I don't think he could give a quote about the baseball playoffs or Britney Spears's latest album without saying "this doesn't justify the Iraq invasion" for crying out loud.

McCain's original reaction to him, by contrast, was way off base. He implicitly put words in Dean's mouth which Dean did not say or intend, intentionally or uninintentionally misinterpreting what Dean's actual point was.

Now what Dean is saying is that he's been mischaracterized. Fine, quibble with the way he's saying it, but let's at least have the common courtesy to admit that he is correct.

[SwinneySwitch]

"I want to quickly jump on you for a sec here,"

Can you imagine the uproar if a republican had said that to Sheryl?

[mikeb704]

"I never said that. I never said that," the man from Vermont insisted.

This reminds me of George Romney, who said: "I didn’t say that I didn’t say it. I said that I didn’t say that I said it. I want to make that very clear."

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

[narby]

"I never said that. I never said that," the man from Vermont insisted. "McCain claimed I said that on television. We called the station and said we never said that.

The McCain quote doesn't say anything about accusing Dean of "saying that on Television". McCain was the one on MSNBC, not Dean. The Dean quote came from the AP.

Dean just can't handle it. Even with a sympathetic press, he still goes off over stupid stuff like this.

Hope he's the nominee.

Maybe I should start a "Republican's for Dean committee".

[Redmen4ever]

The expression "The ends don't justify the means," is provocative because it is obviously false (the only thing that ever can justify "the means" are "the ends") and, yet, has an element of truth. That element of truth is that the ends do not always justify the means. For example, if the means are not sufficient to accomplish the ends, or are counter-productive, or even if the means could be used to achieve more highly-valued ends, then the ends do not justify the means.

That Dean considers himself some kind of a guru for saying "In general, the ends do not justify the means," only reveals what an idiot he is. By making the expression correct, it loses its provocative quality, and becomes a trite statement.

Furthermore, in the context of our getting Uday and Quessai, it would be disengenuous for a presidential candidate to not give an answer, but to answer with a trite statement. By answering as he did, he implied that the ends in the specific case at hand did not justify the means. If he wants to clarify what he meant by his smarty-pants answer, he can say, "You know, I opposed the use of force resolution, but I am sure happy that we got those two bastards."

But, no, Howard Dean is so full of himself that he has to insist that we are wrong for hearing him say what he obviously said. This guy is not fit to be in public office.

[TomServo]

Already posted here.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

This is the problem with LexisNexis. It's great, but it circulates urban legends and creates them and I had never said that. . . ."

Journalism does in fact create urban legends, and did so before the advent of LexisNexis.

Some reporter "sexes up" a story by, for example, inverting a quote by Eisenhower's SecDef nominee. Thereafter it doesn't matter that the literal quote was, "What's good for the country is good for General Motors"--in journalism it is forever "What's good for General Motors is good for the country!"