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Union -- but what kind? (Canada The 51st State?)
Globe and Mail ^ | October 14, 2003 | Mark Lovewell and Anthony Westell

Posted on 10/14/2003 6:05:19 AM PDT by Loyalist

Here are two propositions that will startle most Canadians: Canada's destiny lies in political union with the United States. And far from being the end of the Canadian identity, such a union could begin a golden age in which our values and ideas spread around the globe. Union we believe to be inevitable, within 25 years. The critical question will be what form the union takes. That depends on Canadians' realism when facing our future.

Why inevitable? Borders are constantly evolving, often as states merge. Two examples: Led by Prussia, Germany became a unified nation state only in the late 1800s and is now merging into a European superstate. Britain is the union of two formerly sovereign kingdoms, England and Scotland (plus Wales and Northern Ireland). If the means to that union were sometimes bloody, the ends for the Scots were prosperity and global influence, while at home they retained their national identity -- an example for Canadians to consider.

When Europeans settled in North America, there were hundreds of native nation-states. The Europeans forced them into larger colonies, which coalesced into today's three nation states. Now, Canada and the U.S. are moving toward union, and Mexico may join later.

What drives unification? Since the industrial revolution, the goal in every democracy has been economic growth. New technologies drive growth, intensifying the struggle for markets and resources and making larger states logical. Railways and telegraphs in the 19th century made Canada and the U.S. possible. Now, businesses are structured on a continental, even global, basis for greater efficiency.

Part of this process has been the integration of the Canadian and U.S. economies. In Canada, government after government has tried to slow the process, without success. Admitting that its measures failed to reduce our dependence on the U.S. market, Pierre Trudeau's government reversed direction and proposed continental free trade in some sectors. The U.S. said no. Prime minister Brian Mulroney opted for full free trade only after it was recommended by a Trudeau-appointed royal commission.

Since then, the free-trade agreement and NAFTA have accelerated continental integration. The value of cross-border trade now far exceeds interprovincial trade; our two economies are increasingly a single entity. A continental common market agreement will be the next logical step. It will be resisted, but less strongly than before, because many sectors of Canadian society are already effectively continental. Think of professional sports, mass entertainment and continental defence.

When there is effectively one continental economy, how can there be two regulators with different goals? Most Canadians think of political union in terms of hauling down the Maple Leaf flag, and losing Medicare. It could happen that way -- if we simply drift until union is forced upon us by circumstances. But other forms of union may be possible.

If Canada gradually breaks up, as it almost did in 1995, individual provinces may seek a Puerto Rico-style association with the U.S. It's not hard to imagine the U.S. accepting Alberta and its oil and gas reserves, or Quebec with its hydro power. More desirable would be a country-to-country deal in which Canada becomes a partner in a United States of North American, electing representatives in Washington, enjoying joint citizenship and an open border, yet retaining control of social and cultural policy. Too good to be true?

Here, the example of British union is instructive. With the Treaty of Union in 1707, the Scots ceased their struggle for political independence. They retained control of their church and banks, a superior system of education and, to some extent, laws. After a tough transition, union's benefits became increasingly evident, especially after the middle of the 18th century, when there was an astonishing burst of progress. Scotland entered the 18th century as one of Europe's poorest independent countries and ended it as one of the richest and most innovative.

It was luck that the union occurred just when an expanding British Empire provided opportunities for enterprise. But much of the credit rested with the pragmatic Scots, who took advantage of new opportunities without losing an awareness of their national identity.

Union provided Scots with two ways of defining their national allegiance, Scottish or British. Many readily accepted the duality, mixing national definitions in ways that foreshadow 21st-century values. Could Canadians travel the same route?

Pollster Michael Adams, in his book Fire and Ice, shows how, despite economic integration, Canadian and American cultural values have diverged over the past decade. Accelerated integration need not cause the disappearance of Canadians' defining characteristics; indeed, the opposite could happen, with "postmodern" Canadian values exerting a powerful impact throughout the U.S. "empire," just as Scottish values did after union.

Neither Canada nor the U.S. is now interested in union, and probably won't be until some critical development occurs to force new thinking. The fragmentation of Confederation remains a possibility, forcing provinces to consider whether their best interests would lie with the U.S., or in a shaky Canada. More terrorist attacks could cause Washington to so tighten border security that Canada would have to decide whether it wished to be inside or outside Fortress America. If terrorists attacked the U.S. from Canada, the U.S. might demand the right to control security at Canada's borders (remember, for half a century the U.S. has been in charge of our air defence).

Within 20 years, China is forecast to have an economy rivalling that of the U.S., and no doubt armed forces to match. For a worried U.S., Canada would appear a valuable reinforcement, and Canada would be looking to the U.S. for defence. Or a continent-wide environmental crisis -- perhaps a water shortage in the U.S. -- would require a continental response.

Suppose there is no crisis -- union may still emerge from a thousand non-critical events, appearing not at all radical, but simply commonsensical. Should we wait upon events, or take charge and move toward the sort of North American union that best suits our needs?

Mark Lovewell, an economist, is co-publisher of the Literary Review of Canada. Anthony Westell, former Ottawa bureau chief of The Globe and Mail, is author of the Couchiching Conference paper Continentalism: What's in it for us.


TOPICS: Canada; Editorial; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 51ststate; nafta; northamericanunion
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1 posted on 10/14/2003 6:05:19 AM PDT by Loyalist
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To: Loyalist
I can see a good case for annexing the Western Canadian provinces. Eastern Canada is a cesspool of socialism and Quebec is unassimilable. The notion of a U.S-Canada merger for the forseeable future, is a pipe dream.
2 posted on 10/14/2003 6:11:00 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Loyalist
Given what happen with Election 2000, that may be a dubious proposition for 2 reasons.

1) The U.S. House of Representatives gives population based representation. Provinces like Alberta or Manitoba become the new Wyoming. They contribute billions of dollars of resources, they end up having 90% of their land federally owned and they get minimal representation in congress.

2) The larger US states; CA, NY, FL etc... feel like they do not get enough say in selection of the President. They claim that since most of the voters live in their states, they should have enough electors to overpower the smaller, less populated states. Toronto and Quebec, if added to the US in their entirenty, would become large states. Manitoba and BC, probably not. The addition of large, sparsely populated provinces would further shift electoral power to smaller states and away from NY and CA. Thus, large US states would object to absorbing some or all of Canada.
3 posted on 10/14/2003 6:18:23 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Zot me and my screen name gets even dorkier!)
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To: goldstategop
NO !
We've already got plenty of people here who talk funny.
4 posted on 10/14/2003 6:20:51 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: Loyalist
Each province becomes a state.

I'm willing.

I like Canada.
5 posted on 10/14/2003 6:22:15 AM PDT by xzins
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To: goldstategop
"I can see a good case for annexing the Western Canadian provinces."

You bet. Let's trade most of New England for Alberta, BC, the Yukon, and NWT. As an extra added bonus we could throw in New York and start them off with their very own Queen.

Sounds like a deal to me.

6 posted on 10/14/2003 6:22:41 AM PDT by Commiewatcher
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To: goldstategop
"Eastern Canada is a cesspool of socialism"

Oh, I don't know.

I think of the Maritimes as being sort of like West Virginia.

Only better educated, but with a lower standard of living.

7 posted on 10/14/2003 6:22:53 AM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: goldstategop
Let me echo your concerns.

And far from being the end of the Canadian identity, such a union could begin a golden age in which our values and ideas spread around the globe.

I'm not sure that we Americans are willing to compromise on our beliefs about our God-given rights in order to accomodate the spread of Canadian-style state socialism.

8 posted on 10/14/2003 6:22:59 AM PDT by Kenton
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To: Kenton
Funny how times change. Back in the 19th century, Canada was populated by Tories and die-hard Unionist colonists who fled America and if anything they looked on America with horror as being too radical an experiment and the embrace of the Mother Country seemed well - a reassurance things would never change. Over the past two centuries, its Canada that became more radical and America that became more conservative. To put it somewhat differently, America is everything the Canadian Fathers Of The Confederation dreamed of for their country whilst Canada has become all that the Fathers abhorred.
9 posted on 10/14/2003 6:28:19 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Loyalist
At one time I thought it would be a good idea for the Canadian provinces to join the US. Now after some consideration, I don't think so.

Out of all of the provinces, only Alberta would be even worth considering for statehood, as the other provinces are much too liberal.

I suppose the Dumb-O-crats would love having Ontario as a state. One more large left-leaning state and there would be a Democrat stranglehold on the presidency.

I would much rather see Canada as a separate country with the Canadian Alliance running the show.

Just my $0.02.
10 posted on 10/14/2003 6:37:51 AM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Step on no pets. Anna: Did Otto peep? Otto: Did Anna?)
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To: Commiewatcher
"I can see a good case for annexing the Western Canadian provinces."

You bet. Let's trade most of New England for Alberta, BC, the Yukon, and NWT. As an extra added bonus we could throw in New York and start them off with their very own Queen.


From what I've seen of British Columbia, they are rather schizophrenic in terms of politics; they sometime swing very far left.

I think that Yukon and the Northwest Territories aren't big enough to become states, and if they were, they would probably elect lefties to Congress.

Alberta would be a good addition as a state, and I have talked to a number people in Alberta that would like to secede from Canada and join the US, but for the most part, Albertans don't want to join the US, they would rather "go it alone". That would be fine with me, we would have a solid ally to the north and a great trading partner.
11 posted on 10/14/2003 6:49:30 AM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Step on no pets. Anna: Did Otto peep? Otto: Did Anna?)
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To: saluki_in_ohio
I suppose the Dumb-O-crats would love having Ontario as a state. One more large left-leaning state and there would be a Democrat stranglehold on the presidency.

Ontario as a whole is equally balanced between conservatives and liberals. If you look at the Ontario equivalent of electoral maps, you will see that the Toronto area is predominantly Liberal and the rural areas are predominantly Conservative.

12 posted on 10/14/2003 6:56:35 AM PDT by doc30
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To: Loyalist
I could see bringing Canada into the USA, except Quebec. We've had quite enough from them already, tabernac!
13 posted on 10/14/2003 6:57:45 AM PDT by Jonah Hex (The Truth Shall Make You Free-p)
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To: saluki_in_ohio
I suggest we find a way to hoodwink Canada into taking Massachusetts in exchange for Alberta.
14 posted on 10/14/2003 6:59:08 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: Jonah Hex
I could see bringing Canada into the USA, except Quebec.

Agreed. Then the Anglophone Canadians would no longer be forced to be bilingual in that beastly Quebecois dialect of French. They would have to learn Spanish instead.

15 posted on 10/14/2003 7:10:20 AM PDT by alloysteel
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To: saluki_in_ohio
"From what I've seen of British Columbia, they are rather schizophrenic in terms of politics; they sometime swing very far left."

Vancouver certainly is, but I wouldn't be so sure of the rest of the Province. Alberta is by far the most conservative. The Yukon and NWT would be similar to Alaska in that they don't like stuff like gun control or oil drilling bans coming from somewhere far away.

Except for NWT I've been through all these areas (but not for quite some time) but that's been my impression.

16 posted on 10/14/2003 7:11:22 AM PDT by Commiewatcher
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To: Loyalist
I say we take Alberta, British Columbia, and maybe Manitoba. In return we give Canada- California, Vermont, the cities of Seattle, San Francisco, and Ithaca, NY.

Oh, but we have to change the name of British Columbia to something better.
17 posted on 10/14/2003 7:13:06 AM PDT by retrokitten (Welcome to the real world, hippy!- Homer Simpson)
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To: Loyalist
Interesting article. As usual, however, the reporters have not done their historical homework.

At the beginning of the Revolutionary War, the Continental Congress passed a law offering admission to the Union to any Canadian Province that chose to join. The purpose, of course, was to pry them away from British hands, and keep them from being an untouched base of operations against the Americans. THAT LAW IS STILL ON THE BOOKS.

Therefore, all that is necessary for any Province to become a state is for them to request that with a proposed constitution for their new State, and for Congress to give its approval to that constitution. Well, there IS the little problem of what the other Provinces and the Government of Canada might have to say about that. LOL.

And, as the second poster pointed out, there are certain Canadian Privinces that the United States wouldn't want on a bet. But that question is down the road.

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18 posted on 10/14/2003 7:13:41 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.ArmorforCongress.com Visit. Join. Help. Please.)
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To: retrokitten
It's very early for me still...San Francisco is IN California, I know.

I'm going to get some more coffee...
19 posted on 10/14/2003 7:15:34 AM PDT by retrokitten (Welcome to the real world, hippy!- Homer Simpson)
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To: doc30
Ontario as a whole is equally balanced between conservatives and liberals. If you look at the Ontario equivalent of electoral maps, you will see that the Toronto area is predominantly Liberal and the rural areas are predominantly Conservative.

It makes sense that the urban areas in Ontario are liberal and the rural areas are conservative. The same thing is true here in Illinois with Chicago being liberal and downstate Illinois being conservative.

Ontario has elected Tory provincial governments in the past, yet it seems they keep sending Liberal MP's to Ottawa.

I shudder at the thought of someone like that bitch Carolyn Parrish (the "Damn Americans, Hate those bastards" lady) being a Congress-critter from the state of Ontario.
20 posted on 10/14/2003 7:17:28 AM PDT by saluki_in_ohio (Step on no pets. Anna: Did Otto peep? Otto: Did Anna?)
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