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“give Romney a shot”

Agreed.

1 posted on 08/25/2012 9:57:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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I’m there. I’ve given the gop every chance since 1980 to get it right.

They left me in 1988.

This is their last chance, IMHO.


2 posted on 08/25/2012 10:04:30 PM PDT by One Name
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I am already leaving the republican party after 2012.. “them” selecting the inventor of Romney-care as the poster boy.. did it for me...

Some is something severely askew in the RP... somethings broken..
and probably cannot be fixed..

I’m bailing.. if enough do it.. then a third party can be viable..
If not the whole RP barrel will turn to vinegar..


4 posted on 08/25/2012 10:19:42 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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Romney will get a shot. Sarah is more giving him advice (or a warning) that he needs to STILL behave like a Republican once he wins. He may just do that, as he’s run his campaign light years ahead of McCain and probably better than any Republican campaign since the first Bush campaign (where Lee Atwater was the mastermind). His little quip about not having to show his birth certificate probably picked him up 5 points with conservatives alone.


7 posted on 08/25/2012 10:38:10 PM PDT by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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Romney should pick Sarah for head of the Department of Energy.

I'm just saying.

8 posted on 08/25/2012 10:41:34 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Marcella; NoGrayZone; NonValueAdded; One Name; PA Engineer; Pegita; PoloSec; ...
Sarah Palin's Ping List


9 posted on 08/25/2012 10:45:56 PM PDT by onyx (FREE REPUBLIC IS HERE TO STAY! DONATE MONTHLY! IF YOU WANT ON SARAH PALIN''S PING LIST, LET ME KNOW)
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I adore Sarah Palin but will not vote for Romney. As soon as she is thoroughly disgusted with the corruption and leftist ideology that are sure to be the hallmarks of a Romney administration (if any), I will gladly join her in creating that third party. The GOP deserves the death penalty as did its Whig and Federalist ancestors.


11 posted on 08/25/2012 10:55:13 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline/Tomas de Torquemada Gentleman's Society: Roast 'em!)
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Sarah Palin has turned into the worst one of all..she ‘s come into AZ endorsing the establishment candidates over the conservatives. SCREW HER.


12 posted on 08/25/2012 10:56:32 PM PDT by Hildy (F"When the debate is lost, slander becomes the tool of the loser." - Socrates)
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"if the GOP doesn’t get it’s act together, and start following the platform set out by it’s members, the party may very well go the way of the Whigs"

The more recent and apropo example would be Canada's Conservative Party.

Canada's conservative third party movement, fed up with Canadian CINO Tories, began in earnest about 1993.

By 2006 the Tories were non existant and The Conservative Party had the Prime Minister and the legislature.

If not a third party, Republicans need a Tea Party Caucus in Congress.

yitbos

19 posted on 08/26/2012 12:56:47 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds." -- Ayn Rand)
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. . . if the GOP Doesn’t Stay True to it’s Platform

Sorry, but it should be its. This really bugs me since it's so easy to see the difference . . . kinda' makes Free Republic look cheesy. Sorry, but I'm a stickler.

20 posted on 08/26/2012 1:07:36 AM PDT by laweeks
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This dovetails nicely with the gist of my post yesterday. I have serious issues, from my perspective as a devout Catholic, with Romney and his stances in this, and I am trying to decide my next move in light of that, and the general thrust of the GOP these last twenty or so years. With the GOP continually trying to edge away from moral conservatism, if I do vote in the upcoming presidential campaign, this is absolutely the pee-or-get-off-the-pot moment. They may, and I stress that word, may get this one last chance. If a single thing is reneged upon, that’s it.

As it is, we either need a third party dedicated primarily to making good moral choices that grows from the ashes of the republican party, or the party itself needs to change. But the dance of playing with romancing the moral conservatives is toast, either way.

Like Voris says, “Let’s look at this a little more deeply. Faithful Catholics don’t want Obama because he is a conduit for evil – no doubt about it.
But think of this .. if/when a faithful Catholic goes into the voting booth and pulls a lever for Romney – he is pulling the lever for a man who supports same-sex civil unions and has stated that he thinks such couples should be able to adopt.
In short, the dilemma is a guy who supports a heck of a lot of evil, or a guy who supports a little less evil. Man, that’s our choice.

And here’s the root of the problem. Faithful Catholics and under political conservatives have been used and abused by the Republican Party establishment for decades. In five of the last 8 presidential elections, a republican has won.

Abortion on demand is still the law of the land and America has continued her downward moral spiral, granted at varying speeds depending on which party is in control.

But that’s just the point – it boils down to a question of just how fast we are rocketing to hell. Warp speed if the democrats are in charge, cruise control if the Republicans are. BUT THERE IS NEVER A REVERSAL OF COURSE.

At some point, Catholics and other like minded moral people, who believe that the number one issue with America is not the economy but moral rot, have got to get out of this box of vote for the bad guy OR the REALLY bad guy.

Moral conservatives have been neglected and thrown crumbs from the table paid lip service for decades by the GOP establishment EXACTLY like African American voters have been abused and thrown crumbs from the table and paid lip service by the Democratic establishment for those same decades.
Million of children are still being aborted and the much of African American community is still mired in crushing poverty. How many elections does it take to realize that the establishment of both parties are conning their base for votes?”

I’d like to add one more thing. In the last election, it wasn’t so much that my wife and I voted for McCain. He made us hold our noses. Lord, but he stank on ice. We voted for Sarah Palin. Enough with the politicians who say anything to get in the seat, and then spend their terms doing nothing effectively but blathering and posturing.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 4:51:09 AM PDT by sayuncledave (et Verbum caro factum est (And the Word was made flesh))
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"Agreed."

Ditto. Going to see 2016 Obamas America today w/ my sister.

Although Paul Ryan already "sealed the deal" w/ me, this will further my resolve to get that bastard OUT OF OUR WHITE HOUSE AND OUR LIVES!

26 posted on 08/26/2012 5:05:31 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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Sarah Palin: Sure There Might be a New 3rd Party Rise if the GOP Doesn’t Stay True to it’s Platform

Geez, people!
29 posted on 08/26/2012 5:14:53 AM PDT by aruanan
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Although there is really only ONE major potty...with R and D divisions, a so-called third party would be the way to go, and RIGHT NOW...we have fiddle-ph%$#3ed around enough as ‘tis!!!!!!!!!!

Semper Watching!!!!!
*****


30 posted on 08/26/2012 5:17:14 AM PDT by gunnyg ("A Constitution changed from Freedom, can never be restored; Liberty, once lost, is lost forever...)
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12 losers to 6 winners in the last 70 years and 2 of the winners were there for special reasons ~ Eisenhower and Reagan.

The GOP-e does not have a winning record. Time for a new manager!

32 posted on 08/26/2012 5:40:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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The last thing we need is a third party....we should set about the task of taking OUR PARTY back from the dead wood that have illegitimately been controling it.
35 posted on 08/26/2012 6:41:39 AM PDT by ontap
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Many of us have figured this is the GOP’s last shot to get it right. There are a lot of real solid Conservatives in the Republican Party, but ofttimes their efforts are stymied by what passes for leadership within the party.

A big amen on that!

43 posted on 08/26/2012 11:22:58 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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