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To: muawiyah
The new media ~ the social media on the internet ~ and on cell service ~ has allowed Elzbet Warren to turn herself into a total laughingstock.
Yep, she made her mistake. Unusual times.
I don't hear a hue and cry for her to be removed. Do you?

...how many defeats can the GOP-e deliver before we lose it all!
We haven't won this one yet so I would say one more.

Having a winning candidate is more important than the fate of a single individual.
So who determines which candidate is a "winning candidate"? The People? The Party? You make it sound like the "winner" is chosen in advance by the Party and not the People.

This is war.
Again, this is one battle in a series of battles in a war. In four more years another battle in the war will ensue with other minor skirmishes happening along the way.

145 posted on 08/21/2012 6:03:32 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36; muawiyah

Rape is a crime and ought to be punished.

Murdering a child conceived as a result of rape is also a crime.

If one acknowledges that child murder is a crime, that does not make one “soft on rape”. The rape is not the issue when discussing abortion. Who the child’s father is does not make it acceptable to murder the child.

Leftists and liberals use _emotion_ to work on the minds of women, making them think that conservatives don’t care if they are raped. But of course, rape is a crime that should be punished.

The emotional trickery the left uses on women is a) they tell women that in order to be “cool” they need to fornicate, that is, have sex outside of marriage, then b) they tell them that having an abortion to get rid of any children resulting from such fornication is a “right” of theirs. They lie and tell them that the child’s body is THEIR body.

Republican political types, who are obviously working overtime on FR trying to “win the election”, have the instinct to replace a conservative Republican with “whatever the people in the district want” the moment the media says one word about the conservative candidate.

You don’t “win” by joining the other team that beat you.

If a Republican candidate adopts the Democratic party platform in order to “win”, and then votes anti-conservative on every issue once elected, why would a conservative vote for them ? They have an R by by their name, but they are essentially a Democrat.

America as a nation is turning away from God and God’s revealed law word, the Bible. Romney will probably win, and the political hacks of the Republican party will simply allow more government growth, state control, deficit spending, etc., etc. The coming bigtime bubble pop of sovereign debt will probably fall in the lap of Republicans. There’s another bubble, the regulatory bubble. The mountain of laws and regulations _only_ grows, it ratchets ever upward and never shrinks. It now is being used to foist immorality upon Americans, as sodomites have become a protected class bent on making sodomy ubiquitous. This is a severe drain on the productivity of the nation, since not only does sodomy serve no purpose it is actually counter-productive. Businesses are literally tip-toeing through a legal minefield as they operate, having to spend tremendous amounts relating to one government intrusion or another in order to avoid pitfalls that cost even more. Businesses - especially small ones - make less and less sense financially due to many factors that Republican politicians really don’t understand. While Democrat politicians frequently express derision towards business, Republican politicians “feel” pro-business and tend to agree with free enterprise concepts on a theoretical or general level. But they still don’t take the legislative steps necessary to start “deconstructing” the Federal behemoth.

Hopefully the Republican party will be finished as a result of the bubble collapsing on their watch so America can begin “deconstructing” the political machines and getting down to truth; no parties, no campaigning and no career politicians, replaced by the original American system of citizen-leaders, but with the added requirement of term limits.

It may not happen today, next week or for decades. But simple logic and math tells us that the fat, evil, self-perpetuating Federal beast simply will not allow prosperity as it did in the past, before it was this big. And with the people we have in power now, it ain’t gettin’ any smaller. Because it all starts with morality. You can’t have financial fixes until you have moral fixes in place, and of course this applies not just to the government, but to American society as a whole. Everyone does not have to be “perfect”, but there needs to be, once again, a “critical mass” of people who “get it”. There won’t be a political savior; it’s the people who need betterment. People follow societal leaders (not just political), so leaders in every sector of society need to “get it” and then lead the way.


147 posted on 08/21/2012 7:37:24 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves.)
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To: philman_36
The party outside the Deep Souf' has uniformly adopted a system where the winner of the primary is the one with the most votes ~ so this guy got about 1/3 of the votes, and so did a couple of other Conservatives.

If Republicans were to adopt RUNOFF PRIMARIES for statewide and national office you wouldn't see minority factional guys like this running for Senate, or President, against the Democrats.

I hope you see the problem here ~ the party committees, supposedly made up of the wise old gray beards, have created rules that are not serving us. At the same time if we end up without a candidate for the office they are allowed to fill it using their wisdom and judgment.

This one candidate, with only a small following in the party base, should have known to toe the line closely and avoid several things. First off, he should not have agreed to a one on one interview with a literal Demon from Hell ~ and Priebus, the RNC Chairman should have had briefing sessions with all the new Senatorial candidates where they could be addressed by old hands about what can happen. As you know, with few exceptions, folks who run for state legislatures or the House of Representatives rarely get interviewed by anybody. Senatorial candidates always get interviewed. So it's usually a surprise to many such new candidates that this can happen ~ it didn't happen before, but there you have it.

Secondly, the new candidates should always ASK FOR ADVICE. I have a feeling this Aiken guy would be the last candidate to bother asking other Senators about the dangers in this sort of campaign.

Let me bring that down to a focus. The problem was the candidate wasn't helped by the RNC chairman, the candidate gave an interview to the wrong reporter, and third, the candidate didn't ask for any help from the existing body of Senators and their experienced staffers.

In short, the Republican party let this guy down, and, simultaneously, he ignored them.

The combination was poison.

We have a similar problem at the top of the ticket where we have another minority faction candidate who won because of twists and turns in the rules, and the lack of runoff primaries, and also because the RNC Chairman decided his own personal choice was much more important than the choices of the people.

That candidate, though, could buy advice, which he did ~ much of it bad advice nonetheless, but he's not typical of candidates these days who simply don't have the bucks on their own to buy advisors. That, BTW, is where the party has to come in ~ both at the national and state levels, and the local levels, parties were created to empower their designated individuals to actually campaign. Currently that's not happening at all in the Republican party.

We must fix that. And, it's not too late to get a candidate who can win. In Missouri they got until 5 pm today. In America I think we have to mid September.

150 posted on 08/21/2012 11:43:21 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: philman_36
Regarding replacing Elzbet, I think it was too late for the Massachusetts Dems to do that unless she died ~ you know states all have different laws on these things, and the Dems run a one party operation up there so they want everything nice and neat and tidy and no last minute loose ends.

They are going to go down to some serious defeat with that woman and there's probably nothing they can (Legally) do about it.

151 posted on 08/21/2012 12:57:25 PM PDT by muawiyah
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