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The Guild 12-3-2002 Lurch and the She-Devil Coif Wars [Avert your eyes ALERT]
DrudgeReport ^ | 12-2-2002

Posted on 12/03/2002 4:09:54 AM PST by BigWaveBetty

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To: Iowa Granny
Good Morning! You found us! :-) (saw your post from the last thread.)

My hair care costs include color, cut and blow dry. And the only reason I let her dry it is so I don't have to listen to her whine (she wants to see how it looks). It's really hard to find a good hairdresser around here.

Time for some alternating stomach churning and gloating. Hope everyone was able to catch clips of clintoon speaking at the DLC. His demeanor indicated to me that he very PO'd about the past elections, which makes me very happy. Winning back the majority was great, pissing off clinton is delicious gravy.

Being unable to find a transcript so far, we settle for a report from the NYTimes.

[snip] In his most public and extensive analysis of the state of the Democratic Party since it lost control of the Senate last month, Mr. Clinton told Democrats in New York City that they could break through to the American public only if they directly confronted the issue of national security. He said the party should challenge Republicans on what he suggested was the administration's failure to spot signs of an impending attack before Sept. 11, and what he called a muddled response to the terrorism threat over the last year.
This creep is amazing with his ability to overlook his part in the terrorist attacks on our country! But I welcome his blathering because one day soon the evidence will show just who is responsible.

Mr. Clinton, second-guessing the strategy employed by Congressional leaders, said that to many Democrats and independent voters, "we were missing in action on national security and we had no positive plan for America's domestic future." He added: "When people are feeling insecure, they'd rather have someone who is strong and wrong rather than somebody who is weak and right."
You and your party were missing in action for eight long years, why stop now? Strong/wrong, weak/right? Huh?! Idiot.

As his audience sat quietly throughout the address at New York University, he offered statistic after statistic intended to show the successes of his administration on everything from balancing the budget to improving health care for children, saying at one point that many of those accomplishments had gone unreported.
Accomplishments?! ahahaha! To the media's credit, many are unconfortable about making up stories. The sitting quietly audience was probably asleep.

Mr. Clinton said the Republicans were benefiting from the support of an "increasingly right-wing and bellicose conservative press," which he contrasted with "an increasingly docile establishment press."
Left out of this piece was the part where clintoon laments how democrats had no message prior to the election, but the reason republicans won was because of money and basicly they're mean. (I'll try to find the quote, but that's close.)

"What was done to Tom Daschle was unconscionable, but our refusal to stand up and defend him in a disciplined way was worse," he said.
Could someone help me out here? What was "done" to Tom Daschle?

In questioning Mr. Bush's record on terrorism, Mr. Clinton took note of a number of indications investigators said they had before Sept. 11 that something might be afoot. For example, he said two F.B.I. agents had discovered that Middle Eastern men were involved in flight-training schools and had shown no interest in landing or taking off — only in flying.

"There are a couple of thousand flight schools in America," Mr. Clinton said. "It wouldn't have been that hard to check them all."
AGAIN, since the terrorists were busy with their flight training while you were in office... where were you and Louis Freeh for EIGHT YEARS?!!
LINK

41 posted on 12/04/2002 5:21:53 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
I agree. In most states the REAL problem is a spending problem, not a revenue shortfall.
42 posted on 12/04/2002 5:30:18 AM PST by Iowa Granny
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To: Timeout
One good, thanks for the link.

Gov. Bill Owens of Colorado correctly summarized the problem: "States do not have a revenue problem. They have an overspending problem."

So simple yet eludes so many. :-) We dodged the McBride, McAulliffe, clintoon cabal here in FL when they tried to unseat Gov. Bush who has been doing just what Gov. Owens prescribes.

But somehow an amendment passed to lower class sizes, which will cost lots and lots of money. Of course the people that wanted it passed had no idea how to pay for it and still don't.

43 posted on 12/04/2002 5:42:12 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Here's a thread on BillyJeff's speech to the DLC, including one of the funniest photos (post 25) I've ever seen of him.
44 posted on 12/04/2002 5:48:38 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
Here's the quote that wasn't in the NYTimes piece.

"Democrats have to have ideas to win," Clinton said. "Republicans will always have more money, more powerful interest groups, the fervor of right-wing emotion." NewsDay

Wah-wah-wah! Funny how we can win with all these things but no message. Oops, I forgot, us republicans is stupid and or mindnumbed robots.

45 posted on 12/04/2002 5:49:48 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: All
More stupid liberal press news

CONDOLEEZZA Rice is probably still wondering what Daily News co-owner Mort Zuckerman was talking about Monday. The national security adviser came first to The Post, where she met with top editors. Next stop was The New York Times, where, according to a Times source, the publisher, Arthur Sulzberger Jr., and the executive editor, Howell Raines, were no-shows, leaving Rice wondering if she’d been snubbed.

Finally, Rice arrived at the Daily News, where Zuckerman, who bought the paper for aggrandizement opportunities like this, launched into a 10-minute dissertation on the virtues of . . . Mayor Bloomberg.

"It was very strange," said one News source. "It was almost as if he didn’t know what her job is, what national security means." Page Six

In other news, Cindy Adams reports:

BUSH & Co. selected from all the hordes of Hollywood stars the name of Barbara Eden to be the official treelighter of the official 2002 White House Christmas tree and to be the official Mistress of Ceremonies for the official opening of the official White House 2002 Christmas season which opens officially tomorrow. Miss Barbara Eden herself arrives in D.C. today to rehearse, due to the fact that she will even actually sing "Have a Happy Merry Christmas." May the whole country dream of Jeanie.

46 posted on 12/04/2002 5:56:32 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: BigWaveBetty
This was the Bent One's line that jumped out at me:

The ex-commander-in-chief suggested Bush is taking the wrong path in the war on terror by cracking down on Iraq.

"Al Qaeda should be our top priority. Iraq is important, but the terror network is more urgent in terms of its threat to our security,"he said.

He joins Kerry, Sore, Loserman, Her Heinousness, and McAwful in the club that's setting it up so they can capitalize on the next terrorist strike in the U.S.

And I think the 'mercan people see right through them.

47 posted on 12/04/2002 5:57:57 AM PST by Timeout
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To: mountaineer
Haha! Good one!

I found these at the DLC site.


I'm drawing a blank, who does he look like in this one?


Love this one, stuck between a ventriloquist's dummy and a black woman who looks like she's just waiting for clintoon to make one wrong move.

48 posted on 12/04/2002 5:58:32 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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Oh Lord have mercy, why don't these two just shut up?

Susan Sarandon and Tim Robbins are scoffing at Bush's appointment of Henry Kissinger to head a commission probing intelligence and security failures that led to Sept. 11.

"It's like something that 'Mad TV' thought up," Sarandon told us Monday night at a benefit for New York's 21-year-old Vineyard Theater. Asked who she might nominate to join the former secretary of state on the panel, the actress suggested, "How about [ex-Serbian strongman] Slobodan Milosevic? Let's put all the war criminals on it."

Robbins said that appointing Kissinger "made a lot of sense" if Bush doesn't want the public to know of errors in judgment.

"The fix has been in for years," he told us. [Sounds like he's joining the ranks of the tinfoilers.] Daily News

49 posted on 12/04/2002 6:03:40 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Timeout
This was the Bent One's line that jumped out at me:
The ex-commander-in-chief suggested Bush is taking the wrong path in the war on terror by cracking down on Iraq.

Yes! You know I long for a reporter to ask clintoon the question why he and his cohorts thought advocating a regime change and then bombing Iraq was a good idea in '98 and now Iraq is no problem at all.

Yes, Americans do see through their Bullbleep!

50 posted on 12/04/2002 6:07:24 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
Wow, x42's schnozz is particularly rosy in that picture (and the eyes particularly piggy). Must have had a rough night.
51 posted on 12/04/2002 6:08:14 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Finally, Rice arrived at the Daily News, where Zuckerman, who bought the paper for aggrandizement opportunities like this, launched into a 10-minute dissertation on the virtues of . . . Mayor Bloomberg.

It makes me sick to my stomach everytime Bloomberg is identified as a republican.

"It was very strange," said one News source. "It was almost as if he didn’t know what her job is, what national security means."

Poor Condi! Lucky for Zuckerman, Condi is every bit a lady.

52 posted on 12/04/2002 6:12:24 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: mountaineer
Oh Lord have mercy, why don't these two just shut up?

I had been hoping that after Sarandon had the fact pointed out to her that the people who roped her into speaking at the last Anti war with Iraq protest were card carrying, proud communists (but didn't tell her) she'd have some shame and quiet down. Nope!

53 posted on 12/04/2002 6:15:54 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: BigWaveBetty
BILL Clinton came to the rescue of one of his daughter's chums when she sustained a nasty gash near her eye during the game of American football he organised in Oxford last week.

The former US president instructed his minders to whisk the bleeding girl off to the Radcliffe Infirmary while he carried on with the game.

Meanwhile, Hillary and Chelsea went shopping in - cherish what's coming - The Co-op to buy a turkey for Thanksgiving dinner. As they studied the chilled birds, the student pondered aloud: "How do you cook a turkey without the meat getting dry?" The Mirror

Then Hillary and Chelsea zipped back to Chelsea's apartment, where Hillary donned an apron and began chopping celery and onions for the dressing, while her devoted daughter prepped the bird and peeled the potatoes. LOL.

Perhaps the Brit press saw that x42's having organized the football game was a silly, pathetic publicity ploy, as if a bunch of college students needed him to be the activities director. Maybe he should get a job on a cruise ship. One of those bacteria-laden ones.

54 posted on 12/04/2002 6:18:42 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
Hmmmm. Hillary was chopping onions & celery for "dressing". But Chelz was peeling "potatoes". What kind of dressing do these people make?

Meanwhile, have you seen this?
Interview with God (I believe this was posted on FR before, but it's been a while)

55 posted on 12/04/2002 6:31:44 AM PST by Timeout
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To: Timeout
Ooops.

Interview with God

56 posted on 12/04/2002 6:32:18 AM PST by Timeout
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To: BigWaveBetty; Timeout; All
NEW YORK, Dec. 3 -- Former president Bill Clinton called upon the Democratic Party to stiffen its spine and take on the Republican Party and what he called its right-wing personal "destruction machine." WashPost story on DLC speech.

Dissent in the ranks?

Bob Borosage, co-director of Campaign for America's Future, a liberal policy group, dismissed Mr. Clinton's call for Democrats to move away from more liberal positions to achieve electoral success. "I think he was just pandering to his DLC audience," he said. "All the positioning on labels is just DLC nonsense." WashTimes story on same speech.

More on the Dems' efforts to appear relevant:

Over cocktails, a salmon dinner and a series of closed-door talks at the trendy W Hotel in Manhattan, the DLC urged party members to turn away from liberalism to prevent repeating the defeat in the congressional mid-term elections last month.

"On its current course, the Democratic Party will lose the White House in 2004 even more decisively than it lost Congress in 2002," DLC leaders From and Bruce Reed wrote in a memo distributed to the participants in yesterday's event.

"If those who want to move the party to the left are successful, our losses will be of historic proportion," From and Reed wrote.

The DLC leaders urged Democrats to move away from the old formula of energizing traditional Democratic voters by championing minority, urban and pro-union issues. Instead, they said, the party should take up the banner of the suburban middle-class.

.... The former president reiterated that theme yesterday, advocating a middle road between liberalism and conservatism.

"This may be viewed by heresy by some, but I'd like to see the DLC institute a dialogue with conservatives all across the nation," said Clinton. "We should have conversations about how supporting the Brady [gun control] bill doesn't mean we don't support the right of people to own firearms. [BS] Being pro-choice doesn't mean that we want more abortions in America." Baltimore Sun

I'm hoping all this far left vs. pragmatic but insincere moderation in the Dem party results in an even greater schism, wherein the lefties flee to the Greens and split the vote, while middle-class and union voters - many of whom are pro-life and pro-2nd Amendment - realize they're being used and manipulated, and they vote GOP.

57 posted on 12/04/2002 6:34:22 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: mountaineer
I think people would pay money to see hill and chelz wrestle a turkey. :-)

Ahhhhhhh yes, it finally hit me...

Although WC Fields is better looking, even dead.

Must go and finish some work for Mr. Betty, back asap.

58 posted on 12/04/2002 6:36:02 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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To: Timeout
The dressing and potatoes (for mashed potatoes, of course) scenarios were products of my fevered imagination. Just the thought of Hillary (who doesn't bake cookies or sing 'Stand by your man') buying a turkey and actually cooking a TG dinner amused me greatly.
59 posted on 12/04/2002 6:40:27 AM PST by mountaineer
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To: Timeout
Well I had to stick around for that one Timeout. Thanks so much for posting it, I hadn't seen it yet. I'm glad I hadn't applied make-up yet this morning!
60 posted on 12/04/2002 6:43:31 AM PST by BigWaveBetty
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