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Why is NASCAR so much popular than other forms of auto racing?
None | 6/2/2002 | Vanity

Posted on 06/02/2002 7:08:09 AM PDT by 07055

Forgive me the vanity post, but as someone who knows little about auto racing, I was hoping to learn why NASCAR is (by far) the most popular form of auto racing today.

When I was growing up, the biggest racing event of the year was the Indianapolis 500. But, over the last thirty years, Indy car racing has plummeted in popularity compared to NASCAR---even though the Indy cars are significantly faster than "stock cars."

Could some of you NASCAR fans enlighten me about what NASCAR has done right and the other auto racing groups have done wrong?


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1 posted on 06/02/2002 7:08:09 AM PDT by 07055
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To: 07055
Two words: Tony George
2 posted on 06/02/2002 7:15:36 AM PDT by Wondering in Wyoming
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To: 07055
Three words: Good Marketing Plan
3 posted on 06/02/2002 7:19:34 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: 07055
because in nascar, the sense is imparted that the drivers, teams, everyone, actually *care* about the fans. one of the reasons dale earnhardt's death was met with so much open weeping is that a good many of those people had actually met the man, had talked with his people, and had the sense of knowing him. this is different from eurotrash in formula one go-carts, who are robot-like and distant, and certainly different from just about every other professional sport, where you have to slip 'em a twenty just to get 'em to sign your kid's glove. (used to not be that way -- when i was a kid we'd wait outside busch stadium and after the game the cardinals would all come out and spend half an hour talking with the kids, signing gloves -- i have here one signed by the entire 1967 starters, including bob gibson -- and being the heroes in fact that now they are chiefly in p.r.)

dep

4 posted on 06/02/2002 7:20:15 AM PDT by dep
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To: 07055
Because it's dominated by Americans and the cars look cooler!
5 posted on 06/02/2002 7:21:34 AM PDT by bushfamfan
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To: 07055
Well, as opposed to sports car racing, you don't have to worry which wine goes with it.
6 posted on 06/02/2002 7:21:53 AM PDT by Grut
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To: 07055
Simple, NASCAR is far more accessable to the masses then Indy is. More races in the states vs. worldwide. NASCAR drivers are more approachable vs. Indy racers come across as racing elitists, IMHO.
7 posted on 06/02/2002 7:23:28 AM PDT by Bommer
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Marketing. NASCAR promotes the sport as a family affair. The drivers are fan accessible, and are always on TV in commercials. The only indy car drivers I see in commercials are Mario Andretti and A.J. Foyt. NASCAR cars are promoted as stock cars, giving the impression that you can go to the dealer and buy one yourself. And they promote competition between the car manufacturers. Who knows who makes indy cars?
8 posted on 06/02/2002 7:25:23 AM PDT by aomagrat
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First, because of the Dukes of Hazard. Second, because those little formula cars are often driven by effiminate looking europeans whereas NASCAR drivers are your typical Americanus Redneckus. Formula drivers drink cappuchino and NASCARs chew tobaccy. Plus sitting around for hours on end and watching the mindless confused circling of loud cars appeals to many Southerners. The Sahara of the Bozart thing. parsy.
9 posted on 06/02/2002 7:26:11 AM PDT by parsifal
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Easy -- marketing.

Just as David Stern has, through his marketing efforts, made the NBA as popular as it is (arguably more popular than the MLB), NASCAR officials have made that sport much more popular through their efforts.

10 posted on 06/02/2002 7:26:41 AM PDT by mhking
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"Could some of you NASCAR fans enlighten me about what NASCAR has done right and the other auto racing groups have done wrong?

IMHO...

There are a number of factors, but to put it simply, marketing.

But one main cause for it's big explosion during the 80's thru 90's was the fact that during a time when pro athelete's were getting more and more of a reputation as money driven, spoiled, and above us average people...

Nascar remained a sport whose participants had more in common with the fans than in other sports.

Or..

We all know how much money every baseball, football, basketball player out there...

But tell me how much Tony Stewart's deal is with Gibb's racing. Or tell me the last time you heard a driver publically threaten his owner with leaving the team for more money.

But why has NASCAR surpassed other forms of racing in popularity?

I'm a rabid cup fan, but I will admit it ain't the most exciting brand of racing to watch, especially for someone new to the sport.

Indy, F-1, Trans-am, are all very exciting forms of racing with very talented drivers. But they appeal more to the upscale crowd.

NASCAR appeals to everyone...from the average working guy, to the corporate big cheese partying in the luxury box.

11 posted on 06/02/2002 7:29:28 AM PDT by Vigilantcitizen
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i've wondered about the devotion to NASCAR. now i know. because it's fun and the drivers are good guys. sounds like america. let's roll.
12 posted on 06/02/2002 7:31:16 AM PDT by contessa machiaveli
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To: parsifal
The Sahara of the Bozart thing.

You lost me there...

13 posted on 06/02/2002 7:33:04 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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I can't believe nobody has mentioned the simple fact that the racing is better. The cars are all right on top of each other, and they go in to turns three-wide at 180 mph. There is simply more action, and the drivers are race against each other and not just a clock.
14 posted on 06/02/2002 7:34:06 AM PDT by Rodney King
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To: 07055
Why is NASCAR more so much popular than other forms of auto racing?
16 posted on 06/02/2002 7:38:23 AM PDT by handk
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To: 07055
BETTER CRASHES!
17 posted on 06/02/2002 7:38:58 AM PDT by Flyer
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To: Tijeras_Slim
If you ever saw a movie, "Inherit the Wind", Gene Kelley, the smart-aleck reporter was playing a real life person, H.L.Mencken. One of my favorite people. From the net':

Henry Louis Mencken was a writer of enormous national influence who also played a leading role in southern intellectual life of the 1920s. A native of Baltimore, he became a contributor to the Smart Set and the American Mercury. As such, he was, Walter Lippmann wrote, "the most powerful personal influence on this whole generation of educated people." In particular, he conducted a crusade against American provincialism, puritanism, and prudery - all of which he believed he found, to a degree larger than elsewhere, in the states below the Potomac and Ohio. Mencken shocked southerners when he published a severe indictment of southern culture, "The Sahara of the Bozart," which first appeared in 1917 in the New York Evening Mail and was reprinted in his book, Prejudices, Second Series (1920). In his essay he charged that the South was "almost as sterile, artistically, intellectually, culturally, as the Sahara Desert." "In all that gargantuan paradise of the fourth-rate," he contended, "there is not a single picture gallery worth going into, or a single orchestra capable of playing the nine symphonies of Beethoven, or a single opera-house, or a single theater devoted to decent plays." Most southern poetry and prose was drivel, he charged, and "when you come to critics, musical composers, painters, sculptors, architects and the like, you will have to give it up, for there is not even a bad one between the Potomac mud-flats and the Gulf." Nor, Mencken added, a historian, sociologist, philosopher, theologian, or scientist.

The essay, written in characteristic Menckenian hyperbole, suggested that the condition of the modern South was especially lamentable because the antebellum South, particularly Virginia, had been the seat of American civilization. Mencken attributed the decline of southern culture to the "poor whites" who, he charged, had seized control of the South after the Civil War. Particularly to blame were the preachers and the politicians. What the South needed, he maintained, was a return to influence of a remnant of the old aristocracy.

Mencken's "Sahara" and other essays on the "godawful South" attracted widespread attention in Dixie in the decade that followed. Traditional southerners denounced him as a "modern Attila," a "miserable and uninformed wretch," a "bitter, prejudiced and ignorant critic of a great people." But other southerners such as James Branch Cabell, Howard W. Odum, Gerald W. Johnson, Paul Green, Thomas Wolfe, and Wilbur J. Cash declared their agreement with the substance of the indictment.

The Southern Literary Renaissance followed Mencken's "Sahara," and literary historians have suggested that Mencken shocked young southern writers into an awareness of southern literary poverty and thus played a seminal role in the revival of southern letters. But as important as Mencken's effect on southern literature was his effect on the general intellectual climate of the "progressive" South. Menckenism became, as the 1920s progressed, a cultural force, a school of thought for iconoclastic southerners. Not all young southerners accepted him: Donald Davidson, Allen Tate, and other southern Agrarians challenged him with particular vigor. In the mid-1930s Mencken lost interest in the South, as the South lost interest in him. Nevertheless, his impact on southern letters, even if indirect, was felt for many years.

Fred Hobson
University of Alabama

Carl Bode, Mencken (1969); Fred Hobson, Serpent in Eden: H. L. Mencken and the South (1974); William H. Nolte, H. L. Mencken, Literary Critic (1966).

Source: From ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUTHERN CULTURE edited by Charles Reagan Wilson and William Ferris. Copyright (c) 1989 by the University of North Carolina Press. Used by permission of the publisher.

18 posted on 06/02/2002 7:42:34 AM PDT by parsifal
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The drivers are fan-friendly. The cars at least look like cars. The competition is kept fierce by (artificially) making the cars functionally equal. There are natural rivalries among the car brands that are used to full advantage. And I think all of these factors are marketed extremey well. If you could trace this back to one person, I would have to say it was Richard Petty: he made NASCAR all it is to fans, even fans who have come to the sport long after the King was dethroned. He came to a local grocery store as part of a Pepsi promotion about 15 years ago and the line for autographs went up and down every aisle of the store and into the parking lot. He stayed past midnight signing, glad-handing and posing for pictures. He's always been a class act and has set an example that other drivers have followed.

All of this being said, I'm sorry to see NASCAR losing touch with this. They are moving races from the South, where they belong, to up north and out west. Some of the drivers are tempermental crybabies who can't keep their whining out of the public eye. I also don't like the fact that the rules are situational according to who you are.

19 posted on 06/02/2002 7:45:47 AM PDT by Salo
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Rubbin' is racin' doesn't apply to open wheel racing. In NASCAR, the cars actually pass each other (a novel concept.)

The Indy 500 shot itself in the foot a few years back when they decided to just allow drivers from their circuit compete. (They didn't allow CART in, which had most of the famous/popular drivers.)(I don't remember all of the details; I was always just a marginal fan. That just seemed like the beginning of the decline for Indy.) That was about the time I stopped paying attention to any auto racing, although I occasionally catch a NASCAR race because I have a few friends who are fanatics.

20 posted on 06/02/2002 7:45:53 AM PDT by Gil4
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