Posted on 08/13/2026 5:17:53 AM PDT by devane617
This is crazy! I hope someone knows how to post transcribed video.
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can you give us a hint?
A man in Indiana was tracked by local cops via Flock. Because, he was vocal at meeting and regarding the use of Flock cams. Pretty amazing and scary to watch.
Police, especially in small towns can be very vengeful.
Can’t just say the number?
Just wow. Now it’s every day some stupid stuff gets going.
If you don’t have the time or inclination to watch, YouTube often provides a transcription with the videos.
Then you can speed read. :-)
“Can’t just say the number?”
Actually they can’t tell for sure because the local police refused to respond to the open records request. But he was able to get open record request responses from other communities out of state showing that the local police were scanning for his plate from across the country.
Assuming that the local police were searching/following him hundreds of miles away from his house would suggest that there were hundreds or thousands of searches on the local cameras that they refused to disclose.
Flock Cameras use Infra-Red LEDs, not lasers, to illuminate your license plates reflective coating, even in broad daylight.
The light is invisible to humans.
My solution would be to blind the cameras by purchasing some infra-red LEDs which are very cheap, powering them with the car’s electric system, and placing them around the license plate. It would be like shining a bright light in your eyes to the cameras.....................
“YouTube often provides a transcription,,,”
I tried to find and post, but didn’t see it. I hope someone a bit more tech savvy will post it.
Well, I’m not certain posting a copy of the transcription would be okay with copyright rules.
Avoiding infringement issues was why I suggested folks go to the video link and read the transcription available there.
There is one available. I checked. :-)
For anyone else curious...
FWIW.
That is a good idea. Your car may have to have no distinguishing features, though. Also, it may be flagged immediately for police investigation. This might be harder to do, without the plate, but I know I had no idea how advanced computer image recognition was, years ago.
America is certainly becoming England.
60+ times.
Because he’s a PITA at town meetings.
Youtube transcript:
>> There’s your guy right there. >> Bob Sklar believes the government is following him.
0:066 seconds>> It’s as if the government was tracking you put a GPS on, you monitored everywhere you went when you went there.
0:1212 seconds>> Not just around this small Indiana town, but across the country. >> This is where the camera is.
0:2222 seconds>> Amid the rows of corn, license plate reader cameras are cropping up connected to the nationwide Flock Safety Network.
0:3030 secondsDid you start to see the police in your rear view mirror? More than you would expect. >> Only one officer. >> How are you?
0:3838 seconds>> I would come into town and all of a sudden he would be there like he was waiting for me. Started to be more than a coincidence. It just happened. It kept happening more and more.
0:4545 secondsI didn’t understand why or how he knew. And then that’s when I learned about the flock cameras. Why are you out here patrolling in the county?
0:5555 secondsHuh? >> I don’t know. >> Where’d you just come out looking for me? >> Nope.
1:001 minute>> Is there any reason they would be legitimately tracking you? >> Not that I’m aware of. So how much is the budget going up?
1:061 minute, 6 seconds>> Bob regularly criticizes the North Manchester government and its police officers. You speak out at town council meetings, I do.
1:141 minute, 14 seconds>> Whether or not this is appropriate conduct for a town employee, they’ve adopted official rules just because of me. >> Believing the police are following him.
1:231 minute, 23 seconds>> He follows me out of town. He follows me around town. >> He started following them. >> Keep driving, keep driving. Bud. >> I’m legally parked.
1:301 minute, 30 secondsI have seen them on questionable traffic stops and recorded it. >> Please exit the emergency incident area. Otherwise you will go to jail.
1:371 minute, 37 seconds>> Is it fair to characterize you to use the legal term of art, that you’re the town pain in the ass? As far as the local government’s concerned. >> I’m definitely one of them.
1:451 minute, 45 seconds>> Are you allowed to park there? >> Do something about it. Leave me alone. Stop harassing me! Why do you keep harassing me? >> I’m just trying to. >> Why do you keep harassing me?
1:551 minute, 55 secondsLeave me alone.
1:561 minute, 56 secondsRight about a mile outside of town is where this other camera is.
2:002 minutes>> Bob passed by a flock camera and wondered, is that how the police knew where he was?
2:052 minutes, 5 secondsDid you file a records request for the audit logs to see if they were tracking you. Yep. What happened?
2:122 minutes, 12 seconds>> They did have an alert on my vehicle.
2:152 minutes, 15 secondsThey didn’t say what time period or anything like that, and then refused to identify the officer claiming officer safety.
2:222 minutes, 22 seconds>> He found the answer online. >> Have I been flocked.com?
2:262 minutes, 26 secondsPut in your license plate number and you can see if there are inquiries on your license plate. And for mine, the search count is 63.
2:342 minutes, 34 secondsI put my license plate number in and all these hits came up. That’s scary. That is way scary.
2:412 minutes, 41 secondsI was shocked, emotionally distraught when I saw the level of surveillance that that data revealed.
2:492 minutes, 49 secondsMinimum number of devices was 11,235, maximum 98,000 almost 100,000 devices around the country.
2:572 minutes, 57 seconds>> When an officer accesses the flock database, all the external departments searched nationwide keep their own logs of that search.
3:053 minutes, 5 secondsThat’s how we were able to confirm dozens of searches of Bob’s tag.
3:093 minutes, 9 secondsPublic records from out of state departments show multiple North Manchester officers and Wabash County
3:163 minutes, 16 secondsSheriff’s deputies searched Bob’s license plate again and again for at least a year. Flock requires they put in a reason for each search.
3:243 minutes, 24 secondsWhat was their reason for searching you? >> One reason. My name just Sklar.
3:293 minutes, 29 secondsYou know, a lot of them were. Just locate locate locate locate locate. >> Locate isn’t a crime.
3:343 minutes, 34 seconds>> Nope. I have multiple inquiries under your name for my vehicle.
3:403 minutes, 40 seconds>> You’re going to talk to somebody else about that? Don’t know. >> Yeah, yeah. And you don’t know what I’m talking about. >> I know what you’re talking about. >> You don’t know what flock is.
3:463 minutes, 46 seconds>> No, I know what flock is. I don’t know what you mean by using it to track.
3:493 minutes, 49 seconds>> Really? He’s following my travel history all over the country. That’s none of his business.
3:563 minutes, 56 seconds>> If Bob did decide to move away from this tiny Indiana town and its three flock cameras, the North Manchester Police
4:044 minutes, 4 secondsDepartment could still track his movements nationwide because it’s connected to more than 6000 agencies in 49 states with tens of thousands of cameras.
4:154 minutes, 15 seconds>> I remember having a conversation with with this officer one time and he said, so how was your trip to Philly? And I was like, how would you know that I was in Philly?
4:244 minutes, 24 secondsThat scares the hell out of me.
4:254 minutes, 25 seconds>> Neither the officer nor his chief agreed to interviews or to share their side of the story.
4:314 minutes, 31 secondsIt’s perfectly legal in Indiana and most states for officers to search the flock database without suspicion of any crime.
4:394 minutes, 39 seconds>> Nationwide, there’s a growing pattern of officers misusing license plate readers that are meant to protect the public. >> They knowingly use these systems for personal reasons.
4:494 minutes, 49 seconds>> But we are tracking more than 70 cases across the country. >> Unauthorized use of a flock camera.
4:554 minutes, 55 seconds>> The number of officers arrested for misusing these cameras is mounting here.
4:594 minutes, 59 seconds>> Officers under investigation disciplined, fired or arrested for allegedly misusing flock.
5:065 minutes, 6 seconds>> Officers have used them to stalk or harass exes.
5:095 minutes, 9 seconds>> Including searches on personal acquaintances and family members.
5:125 minutes, 12 seconds>> If they can do that to them, they can do it to anybody, can’t they? >> Absolutely. And that’s the scary part.
5:185 minutes, 18 seconds>> Now there’s things that we can do and we can, you know, put some guardrails parameter, whatever it is, let’s have that debate.
5:245 minutes, 24 secondsBut let’s not say this technology isn’t helpful because it clearly is.
5:275 minutes, 27 seconds>> Flock says its technology is catching bad guys with or without a badge, while the company openly invites new regulations.
5:355 minutes, 35 seconds>> And there’s some part of it that the city doesn’t like.
5:375 minutes, 37 secondsThey should just regulate that stuff, outlaw it, make rules about it, change it, and we’re happy to oblige by those things.
5:435 minutes, 43 seconds>> Nobody in Indiana is releasing their records voluntarily, as far as I know.
5:475 minutes, 47 secondsSo the only reason we know about this is because these three departments had metadata showing that he made that search.
5:545 minutes, 54 seconds>> That’s where have I been.
5:565 minutes, 56 secondsflock.com gets most of its data network audit logs showing external agency searches of a department’s cameras.
6:046 minutes, 4 secondsFlock recently changed those logs to withhold the names of police officers and tags searched, saying officers asked for their names to be kept out of public records.
6:166 minutes, 16 secondsPolice officers can track you with no warrant, no reasonable suspicion, no probable cause. But you can’t track them tracking you.
6:246 minutes, 24 secondsYou can’t find out who’s tracking you. >> That’s scary. That’s why we have a secret police state now. >> Bob Sklar now takes the long way home.
6:336 minutes, 33 seconds>> A little out of the way, but it avoids triggering the camera. >> Do you feel safer because of flock in your town?
6:426 minutes, 42 seconds>> No, because I’ve seen the abuse. That doesn’t make me feel safe at all. It actually makes me scared.
6:506 minutes, 50 seconds>> Bob is trying to put all of this in his rear view mirror, but says he still sees officers behind him. >> There’s no
The supreme court has already ruled that geofencing type searches are unconstitutional without a warrant. They haven’t touched a flock case yet.
Where flock could be “screwed” would be providing location history, especially for extraterritorial (out of state) information.
For a regular traffic stop, there’s no prob w/handing over license and registration which identifies your address, etc..
But such information does NOT include your driving history.
Hence, since flock provides the location data, you could argue that any flock pull requires a warrant and if used to identify you or your vehicle without one, that has “poisoned the tree”.
And there are a lot of people who still think that George Orwell’s 1984 is just a work of fiction.
Instead, 1984 has become the Standard Operating Procedures Manual for the surveillance crowd.
Thanks FF.
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