Posted on 08/05/2026 3:32:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin
PICKER: A lot of people have criticized market structure right now, levered ETFs, positioning and so forth. How concerned are you about the proliferation of levered ETFs on single stocks?
DIMON: Well, leverage ETFs on their own are quite small. So I’d say not really. But there is what I call market leverage, prime broker leverage, hedge fund leverage, ETF leverage, treasury arbitrage leverage. I’m double-counting some of that. So, the market leverage is pretty high. Now, of course, we manage it client by client. And so you have seen disasters that people lose a lot of money, nothing really happens. They just unwind it. But when you have that, you do have a higher chance that something will disrupt the market in a quick way and people get rattled over it. And so that is a little high. And I just saw the Fed today’s going to be looking at private credit. Again, I’m not worried about that systemically, but there may be some issues that the Fed should be looking at.
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...I think the market handled that very well. But when I talk about leverage, margin debt is the highest it’s ever been. There’s a lot of margin debt you don’t see because it’s not called margin debt. It’s called other things. So it’s that kind of leverage, some hidden, some public. We see a lot of it, and it’s high. You know, it’s not, I’m not going to say it’s systemic high, it’s going to cause a disaster, but it’s high. The worst thing is if you have actual losses in the marketplace, which is what happened in ’08. It wasn’t the leverage. It was the amount of losses that were going to be realized on mortgages.
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“There’s a lot of margin debt you don’t see because it’s not called margin debt.”
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It’ll eventually work out economically.
“Only when the tide goes out do you discover who’s been swimming naked.”
The whole interview is well worth reading - particularly the parts about AI, and rebuilding manufacturing in the US economy.
Here's a concise summary of the CNBC interview with Jamie Dimon on August 5, 2026:
Main takeaways
The interview balanced near-term optimism with long-term caution. Dimon expressed confidence in JPMorgan's ability to navigate changing conditions but repeatedly warned against complacency, citing elevated asset valuations, geopolitical uncertainty, and the disruptive potential of AI as reasons to remain vigilant.
Wow, ChatGPT did not capture the market leverage thing, well.
Interesting.
I probably should have said detaied summary and not just summary and it might have gotten it.
Here is a chatgpt detailed summary:
https://chatgpt.com/c/6a73cee3-e65c-83ea-994a-9606e79f0338
Here is a grok detailed summary:
https://chatgpt.com/c/6a73cee3-e65c-83ea-994a-9606e79f0338
Grok has a market leverage and risks segmen.
I think you copied the ChatGPT link.
Repackaging crap loans to sell to Europe is Sooooooo yesterday.
Thanks for the summary!
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