To: MtnClimber
The ABA needs to be dismantled and rebuilt from scratch.
2 posted on
12/07/2025 6:53:59 AM PST by
MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber
There’s been a lot of Leftist indoctrination in American law schools.
3 posted on
12/07/2025 7:02:03 AM PST by
RoosterRedux
(“Critical thinking is hard; that’s why most people just jump to conclusions.”—Jung (paraphrased))
To: MtnClimber
Attorneys are some of the least qualified professionals in any industry. Their professional degree is a liberal arts degree and guarantees no competence in the subject matter.
If 10 lawyers are asked their opinions there would be 100 opinions.
For law being so black and white that everyone must adhere to it, it is not definitive or predictable.
I have worked with a number of attorneys and none were reliable.
5 posted on
12/07/2025 8:00:14 AM PST by
CodeToad
To: MtnClimber
If the state requires participation in the ABA in any form, the ABA is an agent of the state and, as such, needs to act constitutionally. Should be easy for red states to sue them out of existence.
6 posted on
12/07/2025 8:04:07 AM PST by
fruser1
To: MtnClimber
And, incredibly, the ABA remains to this day the sole accrediting agency of American law schools. I think that we’ve discovered what’s wrong with our judicial systems.
7 posted on
12/07/2025 8:34:11 AM PST by
sjmjax
To: MtnClimber
Sometime around the 1960's as the ABA was consolidating its monopoly on American law schools, U.S. law schools changed their first law degree from a two year Bachelor of Laws, (LL. B.) to the more elitist three year Juris Doctor, (J.D.) degree. (It is called that despite never having had a requirement for a doctor thesis.) These law schools pivoted from teaching practical state law needed to pass the state bar exam to teaching sophism. Exams were once semester, and usually "issue spotter" exams designed to test how many possible legal problems could be inferred, rather than testing application of actual laws. The tests are designed to measure a students potential as a litigious corporate attorney, rather than a wise legal counselor.
ABA law professors are typically not practicing attorneys but leftist academics, who strangely usually don't have a second law degree. Their sole qualification to teach law, is that they received high grades in their first law degree. This is like allowing a person to become an engineering professor because he/she got good marks on their B.S. degree in engineering.
In the U.K., a first law degree, Bachelor of Laws (LL. B.) is earned like any other university degree. So after a four year degree students can become solicitors, who do not bring or argue cases. That role is for the barristers, who have more knowledge and experience. In the U.S., we have no such comparable staged system to mint new lawyers. One possible improvement is to have students gain a first law degree such as an LL. B., and then become paralegals, before serving an apprenticeship before becoming full lawyers. That would restore something like the previous system, while reducing or eliminating the role of the ABA. It needs to go. ABA law profs are largely useless members of society who do nothing more than haze young law students while collecting obscene salaries.
10 posted on
12/07/2025 9:24:51 AM PST by
Dr. Franklin
("A republic, if you can keep it." )
To: MtnClimber
Individual state bar associations are corrupt as the day is long as well, and they have the power. The ABA doesn’t.
11 posted on
12/07/2025 11:05:54 AM PST by
SpaceBar
To: MtnClimber
12 posted on
12/07/2025 12:16:24 PM PST by
sauropod
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