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1 posted on 11/13/2025 11:02:08 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Heartbreaking.


2 posted on 11/13/2025 11:06:56 PM PST by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: Morgana

This is very selective to make this exaggerated claim.

I highly doubt ivf beats abortions. If you include the number of abortions by the Plan B pill as well, which is estimated by PP at a 1.5 million a year, exceeds the ivf number.

People,who want to arggue will say plab b doesnt cause abortions, but it technically does. Quibble about it with terms and definitions but thats what it does. Tpsince feminized liberals write the story they didn’t include it in the abortion number.

Both are still horrifically high.


3 posted on 11/13/2025 11:16:57 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Morgana

bookmark.


4 posted on 11/14/2025 12:17:08 AM PST by dadfly
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To: Morgana

I don’t think abortion and IVF are analogous for comparison. Wiithout IVF, those 93,000 babies likely wouldn’t be here either, and the destroyed embryos would still be lost. That is the limited extent of this comment.


5 posted on 11/14/2025 12:39:51 AM PST by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." — M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: Morgana

How many naturally occurring fertilities do not result in pregnancy? I assume it’s more than zero, and should be used in comparison.


9 posted on 11/14/2025 2:23:41 AM PST by where's_the_Outrage? (Drain the Swamp. Build the Wall)
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This happens because greedy doctors want thousands of dollars per cycle.

For health care, bring on market force:
1. Break most hospitals into two highly competitive entities
....
8. reform medical education, breaking down medicine and dentistry into simpler chunks and start it in the first year of college
....


10 posted on 11/14/2025 2:27:32 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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“most people will take gonadotropins — follicle-stimulation hormone (FSH) and luteinizing hormone(LH) — which stimulate the ovaries to produce multiple eggs during a cycle.”

“These injections will be administered over about 10 to 12 consecutive days and taken subcutaneously in the belly.”

“During the stimulation phase, you will usually have 3 to 5 monitoring visits to assess the progress of your follicles. Once the follicles reach a good size, you’ll receive a trigger shot, which is an injectable medication — usually either human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), lupron, or a combination of the two.”

“During the egg retrieval, your doctor will use a transvaginal ultrasound probe with a needle, which is inserted into your follicles under ultrasound guidance. The fluid inside the follicles that contains the eggs is aspirated and collected into tubes”

“The embryologist will examine the follicular fluid and identify the eggs. The entire process takes roughly 10 to 20 minutes to complete.”

https://www.healthline.com/health/egg-freezing-process

Eggs could be frozen and fertilized one-by-one over time.

I would think that if embryos could be frozen, so could eggs.


11 posted on 11/14/2025 3:19:52 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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And then there’s the question of whether or not IVF increases the risk for ovarian/uterine/breast cancer.

That question has not yet been answered.


13 posted on 11/14/2025 4:24:16 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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