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MAGA's war within: Right-wing purity tests
Axios ^ | Nov 2, 2025 | Tal Axelrod

Posted on 11/04/2025 8:29:30 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege

Zoom out: For now, MAGA is being held together by Trump's personality. But open disagreement has broken out over who should, and shouldn't, be accepted under its tent.

U.S. support for Israel's operations in Gaza inflamed America First diehards and hardened Israel's MAGA allies. The online divisions have raged during the tenuous ceasefire, including tropes over Jews' supposed disproportionate influence in the U.S.

A leaked group chat from New York State Young Republicans included racist comments and messages from a Trump administration nominee declaring he had a "Nazi streak." The revelation sparked debates over who — if anyone — should be "canceled" from MAGA.

So a movement rooted in railing against people getting canceled by political correctness is now tied in knots over its own membership. That dynamic was clear this week when white nationalist Nick Fuentes appeared on Tucker Carlson's podcast for an amiable two-hour interview.

Critics blasted Carlson for platforming Fuentes, a Holocaust denier who on Carlson's podcast referred to "organized Jewry."

Allies of Turning Point USA — the group founded by the late Charlie Kirk and embraced by Trump and Vice President Vance — were particularly blunt in hammering Carlson. They noted that Kirk befriended Carlson but sought to distance MAGA from Fuentes.

What they're saying: Within MAGA, battle lines are being drawn over how supportive Trump followers should be, or how skeptical they should be of foreign entanglements.

Laura Loomer — a Trump loyalist and MAGA enforcer, and vocal Israel supporter — told Axios: "I always said that you had to be a Trump loyalist and America first. But there are people out there that say that I don't belong in MAGA because I'm Jewish."

(Excerpt) Read more at axios.com ...


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; axios; bibi; carlson; charliekirk; concerntroll; concerntrolling; fakenews; fuentes; gaza; kirk; leftistsource; loomer; maga; mediawingofthednc; netanyahu; talaxelrod; tpusa; trump; tucker; tuckercarlson; zionism

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Scoffing at the source is only proving its point. 🤦🏻‍♀️
1 posted on 11/04/2025 8:29:30 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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a few under the influence of Qatar

Islam is a war plan


2 posted on 11/04/2025 8:31:44 PM PST by Gene Eric
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

This reminds me a bit of the ongoing debates we have here on Free Republic. Some Freepers criticize other Freepers as not being sufficiently conservative on some issues.


3 posted on 11/04/2025 8:36:22 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: CondoleezzaProtege; cgbg
Here is Fuentes responding to all the volcanic chatter. Another poster linked it, and I only intended to skim through for reference, but wound up carrying my phone and listening to the entire hour and fifteen or so minutes.

Whatever side you're on, I guarantee, it'll be some of the most fascinating rhetoric you've heard in some time.

Israel Lobby Declares War on the United States

4 posted on 11/04/2025 8:59:20 PM PST by AAABEST (That time Washington DC became a corrupted, existential threat to us all...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I predict Mega will become an negative term and disappear like the Tea Party...


5 posted on 11/04/2025 9:04:34 PM PST by dpetty121263
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

So we’re supposed to take seriously an Axios reporter who’s obviously a nepo baby? 🤣


6 posted on 11/04/2025 9:18:35 PM PST by Prince of Space (I hate the media!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Dems win a couple of elections in blue states and now the Republican party and MAGA are falling apart and talking about earring within?? Buck up people! Don’t let the left split us and divide us now! Now is the time for us to stick together and keep up the fight.


7 posted on 11/04/2025 9:27:18 PM PST by Trumpette1954 (Live laugh love!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
"Scoffing at the source is only proving its point."

50% of the people here scoff at the source. Liberals are literally telling you what they think and what they're doing and 50% complain about the source.

The most successful conservative talk radio host, Rush Limbaugh, made it his duty to study the enemies plans. Half the people here don't seem to understand this.

8 posted on 11/04/2025 9:50:54 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The sad reality is that we have to own chuckleheads like Carlson and a—holes like Fuentes because the media puts them in our camp and we don’t distance from them. But likewise Rand Paul, and Massie and MTG, who all just go their own way when we need the kind of unity the ‘rats are displaying right now. Some Republicans seem to think this is all a fricking game, and they can just freestyle and it’s OK.
We need to remember, the objective is to win elections, not make ideological points, or engage in narcissistic virtue signaling.


9 posted on 11/04/2025 10:08:53 PM PST by hinckley buzzard ( Resist the narrative. )
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To: Trumpette1954
I think tonight was a complete wipeout of the GOP, the only good thing is that it wasn't 2026. The problem in the GOP is the same one that has existed for years - the "moderates" won't listen to the base, and will fight the base harder than they fight Democrats. In this case, they are slow-walking MAGA and Trump, and basically falling on the ball until Trump's term runs out (or until Democrats take over in 2026, which is looking more likely after tonight). If anything, tonight's results will only embolden the "moderates" to oppose Trump even more. The GOP is not in a good place right now, mostly due to the feckless "moderates".
10 posted on 11/04/2025 10:28:31 PM PST by Major Matt Mason (Everyone that voted Trump/R in '24 needs to show up in '25 and '26.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

One conservative “purity test” I believe in regards taxes in 2013 bipartisan wholesale gasoline tax scheme approved here in Pennsylvania signed by then Republican Governor Tom Corbett.

Instead of retail gasoline tax a wholesale gasoline tax that includes “snapback” provision.

Wholesale price drops means a tax hike.

So 40 miles down the road in Baltimore there is 50 cent a gallon cheaper gas in “Socialist” Maryland.

One GOP state legislator in York County lost his primary election not too many years ago when a libertarian group backed a primary opponent with 500,000 plus dollars calling him out on that tax among other stuff.


11 posted on 11/04/2025 10:48:20 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS, REMEMBER REV; NIEMOLLER)
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To: Prince of Space

And a couple of TDSers that claim they’re NOT TDSers...


12 posted on 11/04/2025 11:27:39 PM PST by Bikkuri
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To: dpetty121263

Get lost troll


13 posted on 11/05/2025 2:38:04 AM PST by Dartoid
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

From last night...

Truth Details
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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

…AND SO IT BEGINS!

4.96k ReTruths 18k Likes 11/4/25, 11:34 PM

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/115495225031046506


14 posted on 11/05/2025 3:15:05 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away! 🇺🇸 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 )
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

“tropes over Jews’ supposed disproportionate influence in the U.S.”
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This is hardly a ‘trope’. Jewish money and organization have given them disproportionate influence in the U.S.


15 posted on 11/05/2025 4:36:13 AM PST by jimwatx
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
Critics blasted Carlson for platforming Fuentes

And they are right.

16 posted on 11/05/2025 4:55:02 AM PST by tlozo (“We get a lot of bullshit thrown at us by Putin, if you want to know the truth,” Trump)
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To: dpetty121263

Being the NeverTrump POS you are, your comments are not a surprise! Flame away Judas.


17 posted on 11/05/2025 6:54:31 AM PST by ohioman
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To: All

There is no issue of moderates vs extreme.

There is an issue of Swamp and non Swamp. THAT IS ALL. GOP vs GOPe. The e part of that means establishment, not moderate.

DRAIN THE SWAMP. It is the problem. That means no candidates with over 6 yrs in politics. That means no DeSantis, no more or less anyone other than Vance, who had a total of 2 yrs when Trump picked him. He’ll be at 6 yrs, not over, come 2026.

The same for all House and Senate candidates. This crap of having experience in the legislature defining anything . . . well it does define something — it defines SWAMP.

In a very general way, if you have heard of someone from government, he is not qualified to run.


18 posted on 11/05/2025 7:01:32 AM PST by Owen
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To: Major Matt Mason

Do you have a copy of the book “Great Moderates in History”? Cant find a copy of it?


19 posted on 11/05/2025 7:04:29 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn...x)
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To: central_va

I found the book—right next to the gift from a leftist relative:

Title: Giving

Author: Bill Clinton

Publication Date: 2007

By the same author:

My Life

Between Hope and History


This is real!

Lol.


20 posted on 11/05/2025 7:15:11 AM PST by cgbg ("The truth is not for all men, but only for those who seek it.")
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