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Posted on 09/15/2025 11:53:15 PM PDT by blueplum
An ancient Egyptian manuscript may prove the biblical 10 plagues described in the Book of Exodus.
Known as the Ipuwer Papyrus, the document takes the form of a poetic lament attributed to a scribe named Ipuwer.
It recounts widespread catastrophes and societal upheaval in ancient Egypt, describing famine, mass death and environmental disasters....
The text also echoes the biblical plagues' attacks on Egypt's gods, with the river of blood, frogs, and darkness recalling Hapi, Heqet, and Ra.
It references slavery and wealth, noting precious metals and stones fastened on female slaves, reflecting the Israelites' bondage ....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
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The bible, once again being proved as a historical document as well as divine scripture. Who’da thunk? š
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Not false ... plagiarized from both the Bible and the Torah.
“biblical plagues’ attacks on Egypt’s gods, with the river of blood, frogs, and darkness recalling Hapi, Heqet, and Ra”
Interesting. Were the various plagues a reference to particular Egyptian gods?
I don’t remember ever hearing that before but it makes sense.
Indeed!
https://www.biblestudytools.com/bible-stories/10-plagues-of-egypt-bible-story.html
Pertinent to this is a Reddit post by one tremblemortals 12y ago:
The age of the Old Testament is argued fairly heavily. There are those who believe it was almost entirely written/created during and after the Babylonian Captivity (late 500s BCE to the 530s BCE), and there are those who believe its own testimony that parts of it date to Moses. For the sake of transparency, I'm personally in the latter camp.
The Old Testament does not have many extant BCE manuscripts. Which isn't terribly surprising, honestly - Judaism wasn't exactly a major religion in the ancient world, and even the Bible itself attests that the Hebrews/Israelites/Jews (depending on what time period you're talking about) didn't themselves cling to it strictly. That's actually a major part of the Bible - Yahweh calling the descendants of Jacob to stop their polytheism and return to exclusive worship of Yahweh as the one God. The Old Testament even records at least one time period when the Israelites had so abandoned the worship of Yahweh that they culture had generally lost the scriptures until they were found while renovating the Temple. Add to this the mnemonic emphasis of Jewish culture - that the religious scholars tended to memorize the scripture rather than carry around the writings, though those did exist as well - and also add the general attrition of time, and it makes a lot of sense.
And the dearth of ancient manuscripts makes it extremely difficult to pin down exactly when each work was originally written. And again, with the preference for memorization over writing, it's likely that large portions of it were transmitted orally and memorized long before they were actually written.)...
So dating the Old Testament is an extremely hard thing to do.
2 Corinthians 5:7
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Thanks Tennessee Nana.
One of *those* topics, so, a nice two-fer.
Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History | Immanuel Velikovsky | 1945Theses for the Reconstruction of Ancient History | Immanuel Velikovsky | 1945[snip] 7. The Papyrus Ipuwer describes a natural catastrophe and not merely a social revolution, as is supposed. A juxtaposition of many passages of this papyrus (edited by A. Gardiner, under the name āAdmonitions of an Egyptian Sageā, 1909) with passages from the Scriptures dealing with the story of the plagues and the escape from Egypt, proves that both sources describe the same events. [/snip]
Mohamhead got most of the stuff wrong:
The difference between Islam and Christianity is clear. Christ teaches forgiveness. Mohamed teaches killing. Killing is the nature of their religion.
The example of Mohamed on forgivness Sahih Muslim, Book 17: 4206
There came to him (the Holy Prophet) a woman from Ghamid and said: Allah's Messenger, I have committed adultery, so purify me. He (the Holy Prophet) turned her away. On the following day she said: Allah's Messenger, Why do you turn me away? Perhaps, you turn me away as you turned away Ma'iz. By Allah, I have become pregnant. He said: Well, if you insist upon it, then go away until you give birth to (the child). When she was delivered she came with the child (wrapped) in a rag and said: Here is the child whom I have given birth to. He said: Go away and suckle him until you wean him. When she had weaned him, she came to him (the Holy Prophet) with the child who was holding a piece of bread in his hand. She said: Allah's Apostle, here is he as I have weaned him and he eats food. He (the Holy Prophet) entrusted the child to one of the Muslims and then pronounced punishment. And she was put in a ditch up to her chest and he commanded people and they stoned her. Khalid b Walid came forward with a stone which he flung at her head and there spurted blood on the face of Khalid and so he abused her. Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) heard his (Khalid's) curse that he had huried upon her. Thereupon he (the Holy Prophet) said: Khalid, be gentle. By Him in Whose Hand is my life, she has made such a repentance that even if a wrongful tax-collector were to repent, he would have been forgiven. Then giving command regarding her, he prayed over her and she was buried.
The example of Jesus on forgivness (John 8:1-11)
But Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning He came again into the temple, and all the people were coming to Him; and He sat down and began to teach them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman caught in adultery, and having set her in the center of the court, they said to Him, "Teacher, this woman has been caught in adultery, in the very act. "Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women; what then do You say?" They were saying this, testing Him, so that they might have grounds for accusing Him. But Jesus stooped down and with His finger wrote on the ground. But when they persisted in asking Him, He straightened up, and said to them, "He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her." Again He stooped down and wrote on the ground. When they heard it, they began to go out one by one, beginning with the older ones, and He was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the center of the court. Straightening up, Jesus said to her, "Woman, where are they? Did no one condemn you?" She said, "No one, Lord." And Jesus said, "I do not condemn you, either. Go. From now on sin no more."
Read the German religion historian Christian Luxenberg’s (not his real name for obvious reasons!) book - The Syro-Arama8c Reading of the Koran. He argues i think successfully that the Koran is a deliberate misreading\rendering in Arabic of early Eastern Gnostic Christian liturgical writings. If you read it in Syro-Aramic it’s a different book. Much of the weird grammar constructs and strange theology go away. Now that doesn’t make this literary package standard Christian but certainly makes it radically different from what Islam claims.
After all these years, has there been a break in the stonewall of “experts” who worked so hard to dismiss the evidence that this is an another source depicting the story of the 10 plagues?
Keep on gaslighting or lose your position is one heck of a powerful extortion to stay aligned to a narrative.
Quite so.
The rest of the 2ndip (second intermediate period) keyword, sorted:
Another example: the koran [ and the other Islamic holy books required reading to understand what is being said in the koran’s suras ] mention the word ‘love’ once [ 1 ].
Another:
Mohammad personally beheaded 400 prisoners [ Jews of course ].
And another:
Mohammad’s motto was kill, kill, kill.
He argues i think successfully that the Koran is a deliberate misreading\rendering in Arabic of early Eastern Gnostic Christian liturgical writings.
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My understanding has been that if you read the dag hamadi scrolls that were discovered about 1946 or so—that these banned gnostic gospils give a version of Jesus that looks very much like Mohammed’s version of Jesus.
Is your point the same?
or Islam originated from a non-trinitarian belief system in Eastern Christianity.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nontrinitarianism
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