[discostu]

Not poppycock. I’ve watched it happen where I live and in cities I visit. It’s more obvious in cities I visit, especially if I drive there. The “end” of Phoenix used to be a good 20 miles further from Tucson away than it is now. And coming back the “end” of Tucson is much further north. Casa Grande used to be invisible from the interstate, now it comes right to it. Cities, especially below the snow line, are growing. Wild areas are shrinking. That’s reality.

[Carry_Okie]

I’ve watched it happen where I live and in cities I visit. It’s more obvious in cities I visit,

We're talking about lion habitat, not cities.

[cuz1961]

Ya well that’s Arizona not California.

You don’t know squat about our state.

Nor cal has been deindustrialization, de timber industries, and depopulated

Thanks to lefty eco nuts , city libtards, Marxist academia and years of Marxist governorsres and presidents and Congress grifters.