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Spoiler Alert: There is probably no one else in the universe but us (In this time period at least).


2 posted on 08/02/2025 3:17:07 PM PDT by frogjerk
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A decade ago, the New Horizons probe flew past Pluto. I was all-in on this saga for years, so I read anything on the topic. One thing that caught my attention was the engineers’ concern for the probe hitting a random piece of space rock, especially as it approached the Pluto system. They said at 40,000 mph (the probe’s cruising speed), all it would take to destroy New Horizons was impact with a rock the size of rice. That didn’t happen thankfully, and we got stunning photos and another demonstration of American exceptionalism.

A few years thereafter, on FR there was a great thread on the physics of space and light-speed travel…not a Star Trek or sci-fi talk, but people who actually know physics (well…it’s the internet…they sounded smart…) and math really well.

This same physics/math problem arose….the faster you go, the less it takes terms of size of what you hit, to wipe you out. Someone posted a formula and there was agreement on this problem. The problem isn’t just that collision damage issue, but even IF you could achieve light speed, you’d be exposed to this risk for years if not centuries.

The posters in this thread then posited that this damage issue COULD be overcome if mankind could, say, develop a guidance system that identifies rock etc. and steers around it. The counter to that was at light speed the size of the rock that’d kill you would be so small that 1) no sensor could detect it in time and 2) even if detected, you’d have to slow down the spacecraft, swerve, etc. The end of that discussion was that of a “never say never” attitude.

Fair enough. I’m not a physicist nor do I play one on TV.

But physics applies to all physical beings. It seems impossible, physically, for ET (or us) to travel at light speed for years to visit wherever, and then go home etc. It’s just not going to happen.

And yet, UFO sightings and aliens and close encounters happen with enough frequency where it’s hard to just blame it on drugs.

For me, the answer, not just religiously, but empirically, points to ET being demons. Fallen angels. And Demons really do hate us and want to serve us for dinner.


13 posted on 08/02/2025 3:27:41 PM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: frogjerk
Take every grain of sand on Waikiki Beach and multiply it by ten times or more and that’s how many galaxies there are in our known universe, give or take a few billion.

And it’s reasonable to believe that we’re alone?

29 posted on 08/02/2025 3:57:17 PM PDT by daler
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To: frogjerk

Spoiler Alert: There is probably no one else in the universe but us (In this time period at least).


I am more and more convinced you are correct. Aliens in our literature and art have become substitutes for gods and demons.


60 posted on 08/02/2025 5:12:49 PM PDT by marktwain
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Don’t let the dems get near the aliens, dems will put on the voters list for midterms.


65 posted on 08/02/2025 5:24:43 PM PDT by chopperk
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To: frogjerk
Spoiler Alert: There is probably no one else in the universe but us (In this time period at least).

I doubt that.

81 posted on 08/02/2025 6:08:47 PM PDT by libertylover (The HBM (Has Been Media) is almost all AGENDA-DRIVEN, not-truth driven.)
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