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--- "I'm not urging Istanbul."

What are you urging? You've already anted in with "by Easter."

It is amusing to read how "words" are all over the place, geopolitical. But here, specifically....

Trump's plan for Ukraine comes into focus: NATO off the table and concessions on territory Reuters, 4 December 2024
Toward a Settlement of the Russia-Ukraine War Council on Foreign Relations, 22 January 2025.
Ukraine opens a new front against Russia - flattering Trump CNN, 19 January 2025
Can Trump bring peace to Ukraine? Experts say probably not NPR, 16 January 2025

My favorite in all this mess was the ISW-adjancent, Washington Post "conservative" Kagan who was busy pinning "defeat" on Trump, not Biden:

"If Ukraine falls, it will be hard to spin as anything but a debacle for the United States, and for its president."
Trump Is Facing a Catastrophic Defeat in Ukraine Robert Kagan, The Atlantic, 7 January 2025.

Yup, before President Trump was inaugurated, and when Biden-Harris was still a government administration.

My point is unlike yours, in this. I won't accuse President Trump of anything, as regards the Ukraine-Russia war, no matter how it ends.

All those players -- Biden, Blinken, Nuland, von der Leyen, Starmer, Scholz, Macron, Rutte and more -- have been "solving" the Ukraine-Russia war for years now. According to some comments on this thread, that means for over twenty years. For others, it means over four years or so.

For me, it means President Trump has not been involved for four full years since the "win" by Biden-Harris cursed this land. And after about one week, President Trump has much to do, with the Ukraine-Russia war being a minor issue compared to our southern border, out-of-control spending, massive and rapidly growing national debt, and Democrat opposition by stalling in his cabinet appointments.

Putin and Zelensky need to deal -- art of some kind of deal -- with all those other names being as visible and participatory as President Trump. All those big-mouthed Europeans. And a whole passel of US Democrats who have been "solving" the Ukraine-Russia war for the last four years.

Or we can send Andrew Chakhoyan to negotiate with David Arakhamia....