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Man Who Passed Polygraph Test Identified as Killer of California Teen
SFGate ^ | Nov 27, 2024 | Andrew Chamings

Posted on 11/27/2024 8:20:31 PM PST by nickcarraway

A man who passed a lie detector test and was released from custody after the brutal slaying of a 17-year-old girl in California has been identified as her killer, 45 years later.

In February 1979, an unidentified man called the the sheriff’s office in Riverside County to report a body dumped in a snowpack off Highway 243, near Banning. Deputies described the caller as “argumentative” and said the caller could not identify if the victim was male or female.

Authorities later found the body south of Poppet Flats Road and identified the victim as Esther Gonzalez. On Feb. 7, the teenager was walking from her parents’ house in Beaumont to her sister’s house in Banning when she was raped and bludgeoned to death, the Riverside District Attorney’s Office said in a statement.

Five days after receiving the call about the body, authorities identified the man as Lewis Randolph “Randy” Williamson and asked him to come in to take a polygraph test. Williamson agreed, passed the test and was cleared of any wrongdoing. No arrests were ever made in the case.

Riverside County District Attorney's Office

When Williamson died in Florida in 2014, a DNA sample was taken during his autopsy. Ten years later, through forensic genealogical advancements, Othram labs in Texas was able to positively match Williamson’s DNA to the semen taken from the crime scene.

“Although Williamson was seemingly cleared by the polygraph in 1979, he was never cleared through DNA because the technology had not yet been developed,” the district attorney’s office said.

The California Department of Justice has now confirmed Williamson as Gonzalez’s rapist and killer.

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 70s; california; coldcase; crime; murder; polygraph

1 posted on 11/27/2024 8:20:31 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Pathological liars and psychopaths usually pass polygraphs with ease.


2 posted on 11/27/2024 8:24:23 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (Climate Change is Real. Winter, Spring, Summer and Fall.)
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To: nickcarraway

Can’t remember the wording but someone said a polygraph test can only catch someone who cares about lying to people. Others can skate. Such as sociopaths.


3 posted on 11/27/2024 8:25:21 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: frank ballenger

Ding Ding Ding.


4 posted on 11/27/2024 8:27:15 PM PST by FreeperCell
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To: Responsibility2nd

Ding ding.


5 posted on 11/27/2024 8:27:52 PM PST by FreeperCell
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To: frank ballenger

….or, possibly a piss-poor polygrapher.


6 posted on 11/27/2024 8:30:21 PM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-MAX.)
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To: nickcarraway

Poppet Flats Rd., where the body was dumped in a snowbank, is normally not high enough for snow. However, in February 1979, the snow level dropped so low that even Banning and Beaumont were briefly snowed in.


7 posted on 11/27/2024 8:34:23 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Responsibility2nd

https://youtu.be/vn_PSJsl0LQ?si=01KAfgVcleN_UZeW


8 posted on 11/27/2024 8:34:29 PM PST by oldernittany
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To: frank ballenger

OJ Simpson took a polygraph because he was utterly convinced of his prowess as a liar. He failed horribly


9 posted on 11/27/2024 8:38:28 PM PST by irishjuggler
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To: nickcarraway
This is supposed to be a good outcome?...its a horrible outcome..that scum out and about while this girl died a terrible death..

shame on the lame justice system.

10 posted on 11/27/2024 8:50:01 PM PST by cherry
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To: House Atreides
….or, possibly a piss-poor polygrapher.

You may not remember but alliteration triggers the poet in me.

Perhaps a peripatetic but persuasive and perspicacious piss-poor polygrapher despite a lack of prerequisites was permitted this pursuit palliatively, proving a paucity of plausibly pertinent professional propensity and a preponderance of prominently pathetic produced pratfalls.

11 posted on 11/27/2024 8:59:13 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls. )
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To: nickcarraway

Polygraph is bunk science, as is voice-stress analysis. Thats why they are not admissible evidence. Most people can be trained to alter their responses enough to fool them one way or another.


12 posted on 11/27/2024 9:00:52 PM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and don't wish to smile.)
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To: nickcarraway

No polygraphs test on other side. Unnecessary. Go straight to jail.


13 posted on 11/27/2024 9:11:15 PM PST by Beowulf9
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To: Responsibility2nd

And those who have been trained to beat the box.


14 posted on 11/27/2024 9:33:25 PM PST by bigbob (Yes. We ARE going back!)
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To: cherry

“This is supposed to be a good outcome?...its a horrible outcome..that scum out and about while this girl died a terrible death..”

The only thing it does is show that our sick and pathetic justice system didn’t just become sick and pathetic.

Thomas Sowell writes that to understand the bureaucratic mindset, one has to realize that bureaucrats are concerned about processes, not outcomes. So this is a triumph for the SF Chronicle and state of California to find out the guy did it ten years after he died and was never punished. The girl or any further victims of his are of no consequence at all. Same way back then as now.

So you and I agree that this article is ghastly and appalling. But I think the libs wrote it to justify more DNA collection.


15 posted on 11/27/2024 11:34:42 PM PST by Luke21
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To: Responsibility2nd
Polygraph tests are voodoo science. You have a fight with your wife or girlfriend and she threatens to take the dig just before you are trapped in, thoughts poo up as they question you about a murder you had nothing to do with. Why would anyone take one?

My wife can look at me and ask " what's wrong?" Just as I'm thinking about the rough idle in the car yesterday..

16 posted on 11/28/2024 3:20:20 AM PST by Ikeon ( Why don't they, do what they say? Say what they mean? One thing leads to another. )
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To: frank ballenger

Prodigiously positive!


17 posted on 11/28/2024 3:58:40 AM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: frank ballenger

Pish Posh!

Preternaturally Pedantic!

Punishment Pending!


18 posted on 11/28/2024 6:35:52 AM PST by no-s (Caja de jabón, urna, caja de jurado, caja de cartuchos ... ya sabes cómo va...)
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