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Putin Is Throwing Human Waves at Ukraine, But Can’t Do It Forever
Foreign Policy ^ | November 25, 2024 | Alexey Kovalev

Posted on 11/25/2024 4:46:13 AM PST by Timber Rattler

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To: Timber Rattler
" Putin Is Throwing Human Waves at Ukraine, But Can’t Do It Forever"

It's a Russian thang.

As Hitler's Wehrmacht tore through eastern Russia at the start of Operation Barbarossa, the German troops were bewildered by Stalin's callous disregard for the lives of his soldiers. They killed and captured Russians in their hundreds of thousands, yet Stalin sent still more. They could not imagine that such profligacy in human life could possibly continue. Yet it did.

This prompted Colonel Bernd Von Kielst to write, "The German Army in fighting Russia is like an elephant attacking a host of ants. The elephant will kill thousands, perhaps even millions, of ants, but in the end their numbers will overcome him, and he will be eaten to the bone."

Putin doesn't have to "do it" forever, only until the elephant is eaten.


Say "Hello" to the new Stalin.

41 posted on 11/25/2024 8:28:54 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Paal Gulli
"...Wehrmacht tore through eastern Russia...."

Make that western Russia.


Mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

42 posted on 11/25/2024 8:33:51 AM PST by Paal Gulli
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To: Timber Rattler
Several Armored Assaults Overwhelm Ukrainian Forces Near Kurakhove | RUAF Cross The Oskil Riverline
43 posted on 11/25/2024 8:36:03 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Timber Rattler; All
Soon, the the Last Uke Nazi will be dead, and the Snake will Lie.

Snakes always Lie.


44 posted on 11/25/2024 8:37:13 AM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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To: Timber Rattler
Russia has an eight to 10 to 1 advantage in missiles and ammo fired. So, that they need to send human waves of soldiers to defeat the Ukrainians defies all logic and reason.

Only someone as stupid as you would even try to pass this off as credible.

You and your fellow Zeepers lie like Democrats and leftists.

45 posted on 11/25/2024 8:39:12 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Tom Tetroxide

Maybe they can provide evidence of North Korean troops in Russia while they are it. Even Ukrainian sources are denying there are any.


46 posted on 11/25/2024 8:44:58 AM PST by Kazan
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
Thanks for this expose of "Foreign Policy Magazine".

I was just getting ready to research, then decided to read the rest of the posts first.    

47 posted on 11/25/2024 9:30:32 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: kiryandil
--- "Thanks for this expose of 'Foreign Policy Magazine'."

You are most welcome. So much of today's "appearance" of one thing is fully intended to obscure, rather than clarify.

It's funny that citing sources is an anathema for some on these threads who advocate for the "Biden" side while posing as of the "Trump" side. Camouflage remains camouflage. Clarity annoys many. :)

48 posted on 11/25/2024 9:39:09 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: bimboeruption; Timber Rattler
How’s it going over on The Briefing Room?

Still having fun bashing FR and pro-America FReepers?

Geez - I forgot about all those guys [and gal] sitting around in their briefs posting anti-FR stuff.


49 posted on 11/25/2024 9:55:42 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: Kazan
Maybe they can provide evidence of North Korean troops in Russia while they are it. Even Ukrainian sources are denying there are any.

Yeah, the whole "Norks in Kursk" fiction story was part of The Narrative to enable the "long-range missiles into Russia proper" escalation.

Guess "Cookies" wasn't in on the whole "Hazelnut Rods From Vlad" development...  

50 posted on 11/25/2024 10:01:22 AM PST by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: ClearCase_guy
Russia can do the Meat Grinder thing longer than any other nation on Earth. Have you not studied history?

From a mindset perspective probably very much so. From an available-warm-bodies perspective perhaps not so much. In 2021 the population was around 140 million, with the large majority outside military age.

Now China or India...they have the masses of young men to expend. All those young Chinese men with no hope for a family of their own...gotta do something.

51 posted on 11/25/2024 10:33:04 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Timber Rattler

Paywall...can you post the rest?


52 posted on 11/25/2024 10:35:05 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: Moltke

My belief is that the mindset is the really important part.

Look at the US — we have 350 million people. That’s a lot. By the numbers, we could play the Meat Grinder game for quite a while. But you know we really can’t. When we get into a war and lose 3000 people our politicians start to panic.

Russia has the mindset. They beat the Mongols. They beat Napoleon. They beat Hitler. They may not have a huge number of people, but they believe sacrifice is how you win.

China and India definitely have the numbers. And they may also have the mindset. But I don’t remember a lot of examples of 10 million of them dying on the battlefield. They may not really be into that. And by the way, I believe the “young men with no hope for a family” are mostly in their 40s now. Younger generations are more or less 50/50 male and female.


53 posted on 11/25/2024 10:41:44 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (My decisions about people are based almost entirely on skin color. I learned this from Democrats.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Agree - good points.


54 posted on 11/25/2024 10:54:17 AM PST by Moltke (Reasoning with a liberal is like watering a rock in the hope to grow a building.)
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To: kiryandil

😀


55 posted on 11/25/2024 12:17:55 PM PST by Kazan
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To: kiryandil; Timber Rattler

The Briefing Room is where frustrated, left-leaning pseudo-FReepers go to have fun with Dick and Jane.


56 posted on 11/25/2024 1:43:01 PM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: EnderWiggin1970

I showed the numbers to disabuse people of the false notion believing Russians can just send meat wave after meat wave because they could do that in 1939.

Russia is not capable of sustaining that war any more. It is collapsing and it is time to give the final kick to finish them off.

Do you think it is not wise to end that threat, Ender Wiggin?


57 posted on 11/26/2024 5:59:44 AM PST by Krosan
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To: Krosan
What threat? Russia is effectively our ally against the Deep State. Whose side are you on?

Given your sad and comic belief that Russia "is on the verge of collapsing" I can guess it is not the Americans/Ukrainians/Russians side.

58 posted on 12/01/2024 4:54:07 PM PST by EnderWiggin1970
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To: bimboeruption
Here is the image under discussion:


59 posted on 01/22/2025 8:21:49 AM PST by Navy Patriot (I Voted For President Trump, Celebrate Recivilization!)
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