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Longtime music director at Michigan church fired for same-sex marriage
NBC News ^ | Oct. 31, 2024 | AP via NBC News

Posted on 11/03/2024 4:25:08 AM PST by fwdude

TRAVERSE CITY, Mich. — The longtime music director at a northern Michigan church said he was fired just a few months before retirement after officials learned that he was in a same-sex marriage, a dismissal that has angered members and led to sidewalk protests by the choir.

“He’s extremely talented, he’s perfect on the piano, he has perfect pitch and because of him, I look forward to going to church every week,” said Bob Holden, a chorister at St. Francis Church in Traverse City.

“I’m divorced. Do I get thrown out next?” Holden told the Traverse City Record-Eagle.

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To: fwdude
If I may recommend:

Attacked But Not Silent

Billy Graham site detailing that incident in great detail.

41 posted on 11/04/2024 8:19:04 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: fwdude

I actually read that book some years back. That was an OPC church. The PCA in northern California can be hit or miss, but it’s not as bad as it was a few years back. The most homosexual affirming PCA pastor (he was married to a woman) left the denomination with his church, and things have been quieter since then. The most recent battle over homosexuality in the PCA was actually centered in St. Louis. That pastor and church have finally departed, but he had way too many sympathizers in the Presbytery and the Seminary there.

That all being said, I’d recommend any Presbyterian stuck in San Francisco to opt for the OPC church there.


42 posted on 11/04/2024 8:59:56 AM PST by PAR35
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To: PAR35
I’d recommend any Presbyterian stuck in San Francisco to opt for the OPC church there.

that's not going to stop the gay terrorism.

43 posted on 11/04/2024 9:24:06 AM PST by fwdude
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To: fwdude

A gay church music director, well there’s something you don’t see every day. /s


44 posted on 11/04/2024 9:25:02 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: fwdude

I had not heard of that incident and thank you for the book recommendation! It should be interesting!


45 posted on 11/04/2024 9:38:57 AM PST by Chicory
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To: wbarmy

“You don’t go for the preaching, you go for the entertainment?”

I get your point but Catholics don’t go to Mass for the “preaching”, they go for the Sacraments.


46 posted on 11/04/2024 9:45:41 AM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: fwdude

I don’t think the current pastor’s family has suffered that level of harassment and violence.


47 posted on 11/04/2024 1:40:43 PM PST by PAR35
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To: TStro
As long as he wasn't trying to spread his sin, I wouldn't have fired him

You would be wrong.

When you are in a position of leadership in a church you need to live your life in accordance with the teachings of the church.

From the pastor to the assistant teacher in the nursery. All of them should be faithful members of the church.

It is not a "company" or a "club". The rules are different.

48 posted on 11/04/2024 1:51:17 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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To: fwdude
When the Wicked Seize a City", Chuck McIlhenny

Oh, my, what a story, and what a book title. God bless him and his family.

49 posted on 11/04/2024 2:29:35 PM PST by Albion Wilde (“Did you ever meet a woke person that’s happy? There’s no such thing.” —Donald J. Trump)
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To: PAR35
I don’t think the current pastor’s family has suffered that level of harassment and violence.

Small-town upper peninsula is a completely different environment. SF is entirely wicked.

50 posted on 11/04/2024 2:34:25 PM PST by fwdude
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To: muir_redwoods
Will they be getting rid of all the sinners?

So ... hypothetical ...

Parish/Diocese leadership finds out that the pastor has a computer full of homoerotic child pr0n

Keep him or fire him?

51 posted on 11/04/2024 2:35:19 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

You tell me, is the church for sinners or the sinless?


52 posted on 11/04/2024 3:47:46 PM PST by muir_redwoods (There will be a celebration in January 2025, either with champagne or with “hardware)
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To: muir_redwoods

What if the music director doesn’t consider it to be a sin?


53 posted on 11/04/2024 3:53:39 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: TStro

They hated the unrepentant sin and got rid of it. This is a Church with standards, not a place of business that is liable to accommodate anyone at will.


54 posted on 11/04/2024 3:59:20 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: fwdude

I dont think there is one heterosexual male church or civic organist in the western world.

Not allowed...denomination be damned.

In the past they just didn’t msrry.


55 posted on 11/04/2024 4:08:10 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: TStro

Love the sinner, hate the sin


Impossible to do. They ARE the sin.

Say that to a pervert they laugh at you. They know. They define themselves by the sin.

Another one of those things that sound good until you think about it.


56 posted on 11/04/2024 4:11:11 PM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: major_gaff

With the sexualized condition of children these days I recommend never being alone with a child.ever.


57 posted on 11/04/2024 4:11:22 PM PST by Chickensoup
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To: dfwgator
There are always tryouts for Rent.

Go there or repent.
58 posted on 11/04/2024 4:14:06 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: NorthMountain

Give the Pastors due process then if guilty jail them for a long time. If they engage in it physically, send them to the executioner.


59 posted on 11/04/2024 4:16:38 PM PST by rollo tomasi
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To: muir_redwoods
It is cute the way people think that holding people in leadership positions to standards is some how wrong.

Try reading what God thinks about it in His letter to the Church in Thyatira.

Sinners in the pews, overcomers in the leadership.

60 posted on 11/04/2024 4:22:45 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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