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They noticed a larger loss of Planococcus and, especially, Bifidobacterium gut bacterium.

I would suggest this was from a loss of soluble fiber and an increase in fat.

The LDL and Apo B levels went even higher for me, so I made adjustments to bring in a lot more fiber from low carb breads (Hero Bread and Sola Bread/Bagels), along with psyllium. I have also tweaked other supplements and foods, including having a lot more mushrooms and more low-carb veggies.

1 posted on 08/19/2024 8:20:42 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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2 posted on 08/19/2024 8:21:16 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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3 posted on 08/19/2024 8:22:36 PM PDT by Jonty30 (Genghis Khan did not have the most descendants. His father had more. )
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The same thing happened to me. I’ve been on a keto diet for about 4 years. My LDL went up like crazy this year and I just started on statins. Maybe I’ll try what you did and see if it affects anything. Although, if the statins bring my LDL down, it will be hard to know if my diet is affecting anything.


4 posted on 08/19/2024 8:25:19 PM PDT by cantfindagoodscreenname (I really hate not knowing what was said in the deleted posts....)
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I had no such effect last time I did Keto, in fact most of my markers improved. I have been doing it now for the last few weeks (sucks during summer months when all the good fruits are available but I did that to myself). I do take 3 grams of sugar free psyllium husk tablets (half in the am and half at pm).

But each person will respond differently. For me, everything you can measure improved. But I stayed on my statin and BP meds both times.

One month is too short a time, imo, to make a conclusion. The body is still adjusting to the changes.


7 posted on 08/19/2024 9:16:14 PM PDT by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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The Keto diet seems terribly unbalanced.


10 posted on 08/19/2024 9:44:44 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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I’ve been doing keto for years along with low carb. My last liver panels were up so I had an ultrasound. I have a non-alcoholic fatty liver AND gall stones. Stocked up on lots of fruits and veggies now. So confusing.


11 posted on 08/19/2024 9:57:48 PM PDT by peggybac (My will is what I wanted. God's will is what I got.)
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This is FUD. Keto reduces overall inflammation in the body, especially in the cardiovascular system. Reduced inflammation has been linked to reduced incidence of atherosclerosis, as there are fewer “bottlenecks” where LDL can pile up. LDL is just one measure, and it’s often cited as something to fear. LDL alongside low HDL and high triglycerides is a symptomatic marker of poor diet.

Cholesterol in general is a terrible marker for overall health, and I truly believe this will play out more and more in the coming years as more studies are done on the long-term efficacy of Keto and Paleo-like diets.


17 posted on 08/20/2024 2:39:27 AM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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I’m curious about the types of foods the diets in the study focused on. When I follow a keto-like diet, I primarily eat chicken, turkey, and fish, with red meat only twice a week. I also take fiber supplements and include yogurt for gut health.

My last checkup was good with no issues on LDL.


21 posted on 08/20/2024 5:13:12 AM PDT by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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Thanks for that advice.


23 posted on 08/20/2024 7:30:28 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Trump will be sworn in under a shower of confetti made from the tattered remains of the Rat Party.)
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But did the Keto group have less plaque and soft plaque despite elevated LDL and apoB? I’ve been seeing claims that question the LDL model (i.e., that it is the principle cause of arterial inflammation and plaque). I’m yet to see any reason NOT to keep LDL and apoB levels as low as reasonably doable. Your fiber and veggie changes are great moves.


25 posted on 08/20/2024 8:02:43 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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