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To: captmar-vell

He sure does appear to some that way- which is why I suspect highly thst some people who have nde’s are seeing not God, but Satan or demons disguised as light/god- I also believe that the “light at the end of the tunnel” they experience is a psychological issue common to people who are in the process of dying (not all, but some folks) as the brain fights to keep alive- its Lso possible that it is a defensive mechanism to help with passing on that is common all over the world.

Not all nde’s can be explained this way, but I think perhaps a great many can be. But the fact remains that it is “real” to the person who experiences it, and it can profoundly change a person, BUT it can also keep unsaved people in darkness, thinking that they have an in with God and that they don’t have to accept Jesus as savior because they are special because of the exp3rience that they had “with a being of light”


101 posted on 08/18/2024 6:19:23 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434

We were created in God’s Image. God is consciousness and so are we.

We are just seeds of consciousness planted here in the darkness of the earth in these seed pod bodies to sprout and grow, transcending these bodies in our awareness as our souls grow.

Read the end of Matthew 13 where the disciples ask Jesus to explain the parable of the tares or weeds in the wheat field.

The Parable of the Weeds Explained

Matthew 13:36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the harvesters are angels.

40 “As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age.

The Bible is the truth.


111 posted on 08/18/2024 6:33:14 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Bob434

Anyone who has dreams or visions from God knows the lasting impact the experience can leave. Like so many things it is often private and cannot easily be shared.

Jesus told the Thief on the cross that ‘today’ he would be with him in Paradise. This is the immediate destination upon death but is clearly not a final destination whatever else the Paradise of God may represent with fountains of living waters and more. The book of Revelation raises more questions about our final home than it answers, that said to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

Jesus told us that where he is we may be also. Where he is I pray we are all received into.

Paul had a similar experience where he was shown things he was not allowed to describe or even lawfully talk about:
“I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago, (whether in the body, I cannot tell; or whether out of the body, I cannot tell: God knoweth;) such an one caught up to the third heaven.” 2 Corinthians 12:2

Ecclesiastes Chapter 12 embodies much of what this thread is seeking answers for,

Solomon wrote about the Silver Cord that snaps and we fly away. That spiritual living soul attachment to our bodies that many of these NDE reports have mentioned:
“Or ever the silver cord be loosed, or the golden bowl be broken, or the pitcher be broken at the fountain, or the wheel broken at the cistern. Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it.” Ecclesiastes 12:6-7

And a life review:
“Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man. For God shall bring every work into judgment, with every secret thing, whether it be good, or whether it be evil.” Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

Any messages conveyed where we’re left to believe there are multiple ways to salvation outside of receiving the Jubilee of Christ Jesus, that his death, burial and resurrection according to the scriptures providing the kinsman redeemer provisions of the Law of Moses to as many as will receive it, that Christ is not the ONLY way - is a deception and the very one we’ve been warned about. The spirit of anti-Christ.

My thoughts:
The spirit world operates in a bizarre manner and is not at all how we might believe it should work using only our understandings in the flesh. I believe that where we can see the spooky action of quantum mechanics is also where our reality abuts up against the spirit realm with losing locality and spacetime. Recall how a risen Jesus entered and departed a room without going through a physical door.

It is outside of our ability to clearly perceive beyond three dimensions and time (we exist only halfway in time moving only one direction, forward) and our ability to perceive in the flesh, but I believe there are times when our soul detachment is so extremely pushed to the forefront by some severe physical trauma or bodily shutdown and then what is always at work around us may become perceptible or even very briefly interactive.

Like blood in the water to a pool of sharks, hence the potential for manifesting great deception and doctrines of demons.


240 posted on 08/18/2024 6:53:06 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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