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Near-Death Experiences As Proof of a God
Various Places | 8/18./2024 | By Laz A. Mataz

Posted on 08/18/2024 12:03:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz

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To: IrishPennant

Done, sir!


241 posted on 08/18/2024 6:57:28 PM PDT by null and void (Don’t hallucinate and legislate)
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To: AFB-XYZ

Done.


242 posted on 08/18/2024 6:58:49 PM PDT by null and void (Don’t hallucinate and legislate)
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To: metmom
What a great testimony.

Glory to God. Also wrote a book: Donald Whitaker - Divine Connection: Feel Better and Live Longer (Revised) (1983-06-22) [Paperback] https://www.amazon.com/Donald-Whitaker-Connection-1983-06-22-Paperback/dp/B001UQ3B4K

243 posted on 08/18/2024 7:17:03 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: null and void

Much thanks!


244 posted on 08/18/2024 7:55:27 PM PDT by IrishPennant (Did Adam and Eve Have Belly Buttons?)
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To: MayflowerMadam

For those who interpret the Bible as being exact and not having multiple possible interpretations, I pose 1 Timothy 2:11-15

11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man;she must be quiet.

Do I believe this scripture to be the absolute truth and not open to additional understanding? NO.

I apply that same reasoning to Hebrews 9:27.

First, the authorship of the Epistle to the Hebrews is unknown. It has been unknown and challenged by early Bible scholars such as Origen. It is generally agreed that it was not Paul.

Second, Hebrews 9:27-28 are the last scriptures in Hebrews 9. It is vrry possible that they were added by a scribe.

Supporting that opinion is the fact that Hebrews 9:27-28 were not included in the earliest manuscripts. They ended at Hebrews 9:26.

While I am not a fan of Bart Ehrman, much of his scholarship is excellent. He also questions whether Hebrews should be included in the cannon.

While comparing other scriptures such as those stating that John the Baptist was Elijah returned, this scripture does not fit.

The word “die” as originally written was the same word used other times in scripture to mean “die daily” and not die a physical death. Thus that leaves a door open.

Finally, my own eyes and direct observation and experience contradicts the common interpretation of Hebrews 9:27.

God recycles.


245 posted on 08/19/2024 2:08:50 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: DoodleBob
Great. I gotta face a critique from him at my Judgement?

Would rather have Joseph Smith?

246 posted on 08/19/2024 5:04:53 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tired&retired
I know you are referring to Hebrews 9:27, but that is a total mistranslation.

Oh?

Then what DOES the Greek say?

247 posted on 08/19/2024 5:13:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: tired&retired
...I am in their stored memory of the death experience in their last life...

O...
K...

248 posted on 08/19/2024 5:15:02 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
. I’ve watched a lot of these NDE stories and the main question I’ve always had is why so many different versions of what heaven looks like? It seems to me that Heaven is Heaven and it should look the same to everyone.

Well...

1 Corinthians 2:9

Rather, as it is written:

“ No eye has seen, no ear has heard, no heart has imagined, what God has prepared for those who love Him.”

 
 

249 posted on 08/19/2024 5:29:20 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GOPJ
How fair and decent ARE YOU when you think no one is watching?

I can't speak for the rest of you, but for me...


Jeremiah 17:9 kjv

The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?

250 posted on 08/19/2024 5:32:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

“I’m still waiting to have a Near Life Experience”,

says over 64 million little, silenced voices.


251 posted on 08/19/2024 5:38:14 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cgbg

Thank you very much I will check that out later hopefully. Good description I think of how the mind works, storing info, recalling it when things go awry etc. The brain can be essentially dead yet stil. Retain a “spark” so to speak


252 posted on 08/19/2024 6:01:00 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: painter

No,painter I am not giving Satan more power than God. Please read my comments carefully- I explained that not all experiences of bright light are Satan’s work- and made it clear that I do beleive some is genuine.


253 posted on 08/19/2024 6:02:44 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: omni-scientist

Wow- I think you are right, that God intervened in her life to console her. Powerful experience!


254 posted on 08/19/2024 6:04:35 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: captmar-vell

Thank you for your thoughts on the issue.

[[but I believe there are times when our soul detachment is so extremely pushed to the forefront by some severe physical trauma or bodily shutdown and then what is always at work around us may become perceptible or even very briefly interactive]]

I would say thay explains pretty well the weird disconnectedness i felt when I was sent to the outer darkness- it was an experience that is really hard to put into words, and would seem to contradict what we know to be true (ie, I “didn’t 3xist” BUT i was frightfully aware somehow of extreme isolation and knew it was for eternity, and the finality of it was the most frightening part of the whole experience


255 posted on 08/19/2024 6:10:02 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: tired&retired
I knew because of him that not all Muslims are evil.

Regardless...

islam is a satanic death cult that worships satan - aka "allah".

Their Koran handbook demands the murder of all those who do not kneel before satan/allah.

Even Ray Charles can see that reality...and he's blind and dead!

256 posted on 08/19/2024 6:11:52 AM PDT by newfreep ("There is no race problem...just a problem race")
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To: painter

I will however state emphatically that noone has gone to heaven and seen God and come back to life for the bible clearly states that noone has seen God’s face and lived. That I do not have to have personal experience with to know to be true- it’s a bibliCal truth.


257 posted on 08/19/2024 6:15:23 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Elsie

This is so easy to prove in demonstrations with people. When I read the details of a total stranger’s soul without them saying one word, it freaks them out. I do this with academic researchers, PhD’s and MD’s.

I then explain the neuroscience of it and how the human soul connects and communicates with the physical body. It’s easy to understand when you can see and feel it. Problem is, small minds can’t comprehend it. The expansion of consciousness that happens with awakening and transcendence not only allows for the mind to process and grasp more information at one time, but also process it much faster.

The other thing with transcendence is that the thoughts of others exist within you. When I sit in Grand Rounds at the hospital with over a hundred Dr’s, I can feel their consciousness influencing my consciousness just being near them. The human soul at its smallest point is 30 ft in diameter. Thus, if I am within 60 ft of their physical body, our souls overlap. I can learn much of their knowledge just by being near them as knowledge is not private. There is no such thing as a secret.

If the Bible told you the earth was flat, would you believe it? Yet the church persecuted Galileo in 1633 for stating that the earth was round. Just because the majority of the church believes something does not make it true.


258 posted on 08/19/2024 6:16:26 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings )
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To: Big Red Badger

A couple, of other folks were also raised from the dead in the bible- God is certainly able-


259 posted on 08/19/2024 6:25:54 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: null and void

Add me to it too pl3ase. Always interested in the topic and people’s experiences.


260 posted on 08/19/2024 6:29:06 AM PDT by Bob434
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