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Explain WhyWe Are We Even Adversaries With Russia?
Self | 07/19/2024 | Self

Posted on 07/19/2024 5:37:32 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck

Russia supports our adversaries because we still treat Russia as our adversary. A change in policy could change the global world order overnight. China and Islamists are our true enemies.


TOPICS: History; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: nato; putinpuffershatefr; putinsacommie; russia; stupidvanity; vanity
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1 posted on 07/19/2024 5:37:32 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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Perhaps it is because Russia is militarily expansionist.


2 posted on 07/19/2024 5:39:29 PM PDT by Petrosius
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Russia’s interests will never be aligned with ours.

Even if Earth was invaded by Little Green Men, Russia would find a way to align with them against us.


3 posted on 07/19/2024 5:41:22 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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It sadly goes back to the end of the Cold War. Instead of engaging them, helping transition them to a capitalist and democratic society, we let our anti-Russian folks run amok, not accepting the end of the Cold War, we turned our back. I have to think we had a chance at a different outcome, but nope, we now have a challenge with Russia who should be our natural ally against the Islamic Cult and China.

No easy solution now.

4 posted on 07/19/2024 5:42:54 PM PDT by Reno89519 (Trump / Vance 2024 - Make America Great Again)
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All true.


5 posted on 07/19/2024 5:43:52 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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There’s no reason except that the MIC needs a good enemy to justify its existence and huge payroll.


6 posted on 07/19/2024 5:45:09 PM PDT by Neanderthal (Let's go, Brandon!)
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The idea is to drain Russia economically forcing it into submission to the United States so China can be dealt with next.

The “Deep State” has been messaging China as a helper of Russia in the Ukraine War indeed signaling the ultimate end game to isolate take out China.


7 posted on 07/19/2024 5:45:17 PM PDT by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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It sadly goes back to the end of the Cold War. Instead of engaging them, helping transition them to a capitalist and democratic society, we let our anti-Russian folks run amok, not accepting the end of the Cold War, we turned our back.

There was no way Stalin was going to convert to a free market, open election system. None.

Recall how the Soviets occupied eastern Europe.

Recall the Berlin Wall.

There was no negotiating with them at the time.

8 posted on 07/19/2024 5:46:09 PM PDT by ealgeone
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Unless I missed it, Russia has been supporting Iran, Syria, North Korea, and others for a very long time.


9 posted on 07/19/2024 5:46:18 PM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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Perhaps Russia supports our adversaries because we support theirs.

When and if the US stops its aggression toward Russia, relations will improve.


10 posted on 07/19/2024 5:46:29 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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So what? Explain why we should care? What happens if Russia takes over Ukraine. There are over 10 countries in Africa at war with one another - why aren’t we there one one side or another?


11 posted on 07/19/2024 5:46:31 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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They keep getting drunk and walking into their neighbor’s home.


12 posted on 07/19/2024 5:46:57 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Don’t vote for anyone over 70 years old. Get rid of the geriatric politicians.)
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Because their leadership is evil, and they keep agitating and trying to cut us down by supporting Marxist takeovers of the US and every country they interact with, or try to keep Marxists in power wherever they find them thus.

Their communists didn’t just disappear when they switched the flag, any more than our communists became patriots when they threw aside their red color for blue. It is all just superficial so they don’t look like what they are.


13 posted on 07/19/2024 5:47:00 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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Your analysis that their interest will never be aligned with ours is based on what knowledge you have that others don’t. If there is nothing beyond your personal opinion, then say ‘based on my personal opinion’.


14 posted on 07/19/2024 5:48:35 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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NOTHING makes the Muslims and the Chinese happier than watching two nuclear-armed infidel Christian nations clawing at each others’ throats. Keep it up, you stupid Zelenskyy-loving idiots.


15 posted on 07/19/2024 5:49:38 PM PDT by 4Runner
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Russia as a culture is afraid of invasion. They suffered under the Mongols and centuries later it was the Nazis.

They are pretty much paranoid about anyone and everyone.

16 posted on 07/19/2024 5:50:47 PM PDT by Ciaphas Cain (A perfect storm. There will be no escape from what is coming.)
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It is one of the great geopolitical blunders of all time. Russia and the US should have formed an alliance against China as the latter rose to power, to protect both America commercial and geopolitical interests and Russian control over Siberia.

Instead, the hubris and powermongering neocon set drove Russia into China's arms. While they boast about "diplomatically isolating" Russia because the handful of has-been dying European states under Washington's thumb goes along with them, India, China, the growing BRICS block and everyone else carries on business as usual with Russia. It is Washington that is getting diplomatically isolated.

And that doesn't even get into geopolitical disasters like the wholesale loss of the Sahel, Afghanistan, the Middle East plunging back into strife and war after the Trump peace, and so on.

17 posted on 07/19/2024 5:51:25 PM PDT by EnderWiggin1970
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Because the military industrial complex needs an eternal war so they can grind out profit eternally.


18 posted on 07/19/2024 5:51:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Both the US and Russia are self-sufficient. There is no reason to be enemies. However it is in certain people’s interests to keep the two countries at odds. That’s the crux of it.


19 posted on 07/19/2024 5:52:11 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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Unless I missed it, Russia has been supporting Iran, Syria, North Korea, and others for a very long time.

Yeah, you missed it. My whole point was that they’ve been supporting our enemies because we’re treating Russia as enemies. Duh.

20 posted on 07/19/2024 5:52:44 PM PDT by ExpatCanuck
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