The left does not care. They want things to be destroyed.
I have two ways to answer this question, objectively and subjectively. Objectively, it is on the left. It is big government centrally controlled and wealth distributionist. They only allow private business to operate because it creates wealth that be taxed.
Subjectively, which is how liberals define it, it is to the right of the liberal. In other words, the liberal is identifying himself as a communist.
Actually Goebbels explained it best!
Difference between Communism and National Socialism - “ In Communism the state owns the means of production. In National Socialism the state owns the man who owns the means of production!”.
The lie that the National Socialists were “right” is one of the biggest lies of the 20th century.
Hitler was expressly anti-capitalist.
He favored gay rights and, in fact, the head of the SA was openly gay (until the Night of Long Knives), animal rights, vegetarian, centralized government, opposed religion not controlled by the State, government control of everything, government control of children.
Literally the only difference between Hitler and Stalin were sematics and Stalin wasn’t as obsessed with race/Jews.
Anything unconstitutional and not capitalistic is left. Whatever name you give it. Socialism..communism..fascism..CRT..FBI..PBS.. biden family...
How should you characterize something economically liberal and socially conservative?
Something most of the people want, most of the time?
Something neither party will offer?
Well - if you use the “F” word, you’re not going to get it.
The fascists were Leftists. They were quite openly and declared themselves to be socialists.
The primary differentiator between the National Socialists and the State Socialists (ie Commies) is the National Socialists were smart enough to leave the existing business owners/managers in place so long as they did the government’s bidding.....ie made what the government wanted them to make. The Communists stupidly killed off the owners/managers and instead dropped in Communist party flunkies who had no idea what they hell they were doing to run the businesses.
Make no mistake though, under the fascists, the government dictated what you would produce and very strictly limited the profit you could make. Woe betide you if you tried to actually run the business for yourself or not do what the government told you to do.
““To put it quite clearly: we have an economic program. Point 13 in that program demands the nationalization of all public companies, in other words socialization, or what is known here as socialism. … the good of the community takes priority over that of the individual. But the State should retain control; every owner should feel himself to be an agent of the State; it is his duty not to misuse his possessions to the detriment of the State or the interests of his fellow countrymen. That is the overriding point. The Third Reich will always retain the right to control property owners.” - Adolf Hitler
“We are socialists, we are enemies of today’s capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are determined to destroy this system under all conditions.” - Adolf Hitler
“Socialism as the final concept of duty, the ethical duty of work, not just for oneself but also for one’s fellow man’s sake, and above all the principle: Common good before own good, a struggle against all parasitism and especially against easy and unearned income. And we were aware that in this fight we can rely on no one but our own people.” - Adolf Hitler
“Germany’s economic policy is conducted exclusively in accordance with the interests of the German people. In this respect I am a fanatical socialist, one who has ever in mind the interests of all his people.” - Adolf Hitler
Read the above. This is anything but a Conservative...or a liberal in the classical sense. Hitler was a collectivist who believed in the state and viewed individuals as nothing more than cogs in the machine. This is Leftism by any definition. Here is what Ludwig Von Mises said about the subject:
Von Mises in his Human Action (p. 171) said:
“There are two patterns for the realization of socialism. The first pattern (we may call it the Lenin or Russian pattern) . . . . the second pattern (we may call it the Hindenburg or German Pattern) nominally and seemingly preserves private ownership of the means of production and keeps the appearance of ordinary markets, prices, wages, and interest rates. There are, however, no longer entrepreneurs, but only shop managers … bound to obey unconditionally the orders issued by government.”
No, the national SOCIALISTS were definitely not “Right wing”.
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If Biden gets re-elected, we’ll be seeing what fascism is like in this country.
Fascism is corporations and politicians scratching each others back, while keeping the masses sufficiently happy so they won’t revolt.
By that definition we live in a fascist state, as are all so called “capitalist” states.
It is the most stable form of government. It is the one most governments end up being - the final destination of governance. China is a perfect example. They morphed from a decrepit communist state (no private property) to a very successful fascist (capitalist) state.
Politicians have the power and can control corporations. But entrepreneurs/corporations are the ones that know how to create wealth if given enough freedom to do so, so smart politicians allow that. And the masses mostly go along with the program as long as they’re kept reasonably content. If not they blow up the whole thing and start over.
All calls for unity in politics represent a call for the elimination of true diversity in some manner, and pretend we all should be on the same page on far too many things. Unity is in the end a call to eliminate Liberty, even if only bit by bit.
Whereas a call for Liberty is a call for true divesity, in which we pledge that we do not have to agree on everything, and are willing to not have the government control or run everything, allowing a larger role of Liberty and individual choices to build society in diverse ways and with more true diversity as a result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1T_98uT1IZs
(What is Fascism?)
Neither. It’s called a 3rd Positionist ideology.
“Fascism allows the business to keep the means of its production, the factories or farms, but takes the output (profit).”
They don’t take ALL of the profit, just some, like our government does.
Thus, we’re very much a fascist state... and that’s not bad.
There are basically three forms of governments.
1. Communism - the state owns and decides everything. It knows best in everything.
2. Fascism - the state recognizes that some people (entrepreneurs) are very good at producing and inventing things, so it gives them enough free rein and property rights to create wealth for themselves, with the state (politicos) and the masses also getting a cut of it. The smart politicos make sure that they don’t kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
3 - libertarianism - at its extreme, no government, no laws, everyone on his own. A free for all jungle. This is the most unstable form of government that’s why there aren’t any around.
Stopped reading after the second sentence.
Fascism is a *ONE PARTY* government with a market economy. Full stop. The name delineates it from “Socialism” which is
a one-party state with the GOVERNMENT owning the means of production or a free market state with multiple parties.
The definition is by the man who is only a professional journalist who ever ascended to power. He also implemented it to include a nationalist and expansionary foreign policy.
By definition, no state with competing parties has a fascist government nor does any state without a market economy.
Some random author or professor does not get to rewrite original definitions so that a word can just mean “Something I don’t like”
China is fascist. Fascism revitalized Germany. Fascism can work quite well as far as economic development goes.
I have been learning recently about the Nazi “obsession” with public health
The Nazis conducted the first government anti-smoking, diet recommendations, and “greening” campaigns for workspaces and factories. They were also active promoters of vaccinations, and conducted extensive research into modifying humans to improve useful traits for the nation and collective. We are all aware of their view of eugenics. Hence the large amount of medical experimentation done at concentration camps.
They had what is now a very secular-humanist, atheistic, and modernist, utilitarian view of human life the face of science, and believed that science, combined with the power of the state could greatly improve the health and genetics of the population.
According to Giovanni Gentile, the co-founder of fascism and Mussolini’s ghostwriter, fascism is “the most viable form of socialism.”
Mises wrote about “Russian socialism, “ i.e., Communism, and “German socialism,” i.e., fascism/Naziism. There are only small shades of difference. I often say that the difference between the two is roughly the difference between maroon and burgundy. Fascism is perhaps half a baby step to the right of Communism, but in practice, they amount to the same thing.
Fascist leaders like Mussolini and Hitler were admired by early progressives and they shared many ideas.
Fascism is simply a slightly different form of leftism than Communism is.
Fascism is essentially the merger of corporation and state. “Private ownership” is retained, but the state, through bureaucracy and regulation, makes most (if not all) of the decisions about how that “private” property is used.
It takes the form of picking winners and losers, forcing taxpayers to support favored companies and projects, and using legislative and regulatory power to convey benefits to the favored while harming the disfavored.
This is also progressivism.
Like modern liberals, who "generously" "let us keep" some of what we've earned, but only as much as they don't need for their pet projects. They believe we exist to serve them, like tax slaves.