Posted on 04/26/2024 6:30:32 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe
A lot is written every single day about how overpowered the Ukrainians are in their fight against the ever-strengthening Russian Federation forces.
But now, the most pressing issue of the absolute lack of manpower by the Kiev regime is coming to the forefront of public opinion.
(snip)
"'I think many Poles are outraged when they see young Ukrainian men in hotels and cafes, and they hear how much effort we have to make to help Ukraine', he said, without giving any details on how Poland will help.
Some 4.3 million Ukrainians are living in European Union countries as of January, 2024, of whom about 860,000 are adult men, the Eurostat database estimates. Poland has granted temporary protection status to 950,000 Ukrainians, the second-largest number after Germany.
(Excerpt) Read more at thegatewaypundit.com ...
Where I do depart is that if those expats do have loyalty still to Ukraine, but don't want to fight in the meat grinder, once back perhaps they sue for a cease fire, and if their money grubbing WEF puppet insists otherwise, use their numbers to effect the changes necessary to do so.
I can sympathize also with the Polish take, expect these Ukrainians to defend their own country. But even if they are forced to return, I doubt they will make usable troops. If they ran away before being fired upon, why should one expect them to risk their lives once forced into uniform. Many a soldier has survived a firefight by keeping his head down in a foxhole or trench, never rising to fire his rifle. May as well not be there.
Now, I do wonder why anyone would think such a ludicrous thought.
Oh, I know.....because that's been the story for the last 60 years:
-Vietnam
-Iraq
-Afganastain
-Ukraine
-And more.....
In fact, one could make the case that it goes all the way back to Korea.
So, really, after all, there is absolutely a great reason to ask your question!
“I doubt they will make usable troops.”
Having been in a war there a few simply did not want to be there, I can attest to the fact they trustworthiness is more of an issue than usefulness.
I caught some flak the last time I made this statement, but I stand by it. It is the duty of the Ukraine’s physically fit men to enter military service to defend their country. This is not some war in some far off country no one has ever heard of, it’s their country that is being invaded.
I do not like draft dodgers. If the Polish want to send these people back to Ukraine, then so be it.
The Vietnam war made it popular, if not acceptable, to dodge military service. With that said, if China or Russia attack us, again the chickens will flee conscription.
You referenced Vietnam and Korea.
You are right. There was no domino effect. Communism is harmless, it does not spread. China is not our enemy, it is our friend. And Truman was one of the best presidents around for stopping Patton in WWII and MacArthur in the Korean war for wanting to put an end to communism altogether.
The best thing we ever did was send all of our manufacturing capabilities to Communist China so we could buy everything from them which allowed them to build a very large and modern military that is currently threatening their Asian neighbors and infiltrating our country.
The above was written with extreme sarcasm.
They should be willing to sacrifice, and die if necessary, for Hunter Biden’s cocaine habit
You missed the second part of my OP. Read between the lines. I guarantee you the Langley sponsored troll farm wouldn’t agree with the implied sentiment.
These quoted numbers come from sources that we should trust . . . why?
There isn’t any information whatsoever about Ukraine that can be trusted.
As for people having a responsibility to defend their country . . . is everyone going to continue to say that if a Russia friendly government comes to power in Ukraine? Is this clamor about these guys needing to “defend their country” going to stay in place?
No, it would not. What is really being said is these guys should be going to Ukraine from Germany or Poland to defend the Zelensky government. The country will still be there in the form of dirt on the ground regardless of the government.
I'm so happy you agree and see "the truth." Oh sure, the commies took over the world after we tucked our tails and ran in Korea and Vietnam which was after sacrificing thousands and thousands of young American lives. How many commie countries are there today? Yep. It really spread like wildfire. Just like there were WMDs all over Iraq!
China is not our enemy, it is our friend.
Has China attacked the US? Don't you see the pattern? First, you create a monster/enemy (Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Russia), and then you send out the troops. Now, some poor gullible souls like you seem to believe the story fits like a hand in a glove. On the other hand, if you follow the pattern it is quite obvious most of you are being led around like a camel with a nose ring into oblivious slaughter.
We've been able to get by with our bullying for decades, but now the rest of the world is growing up, and they see it -- and they don't like it. BRICS and the Shanghai Cooperation Organisation are perfect examples.
We had a good run, but like all empires in history, sooner or later, they wane—the British Empire, the Spanish Empire, the French Empire, the Roman Empire, the Greek Empire, the Persian Empire, and on and on. Only a fool thinks we can avoid the same fate.
I understand you are being ironic. What I say is: Well, it spread to Washington DC. What domino fell on the United States?
Seriously - WE are the global color-revolution (neo) Marxist empire now, at war everywhere abroad, with an aggressive DOJ/KGB censorship and political-control regime at home
Ukrainians lives are meaningless to those behind this proxy war.
1. 500€ fee at counselor secrion to process paperwork.
2. NATO/EU to refuse all banking services for Ukrainian men.
3. Since 18th century EUropean traditions, customs and international law/relations in jeapordy by forced or returning people i to a home country where they are at probable risk of loss of life in a war, or at the hands of a government they do not support.
4. Russia is offering Ukrainian men (who pass a background investigation to determine if they have acted against Russia) lawful passage to Russia and they may return to Ukrainian homes at the end of the war.
5. Based on no. 4, EUropean countries may allow Ukrainians to remain in limbo wirh banking or financial support.... The PR war is being lost by EUrope and the US.
The European countries all signed onto the:
Now they will be in violation of their own rules based international order.
Biden is destroying everything in his way to continue his piggybank war.
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