That’s pretty awesome.
And now, in this corner, the shots for covid…for BNT162b2 [Pfizer–BioNTech], mRNA-1273 [Moderna], ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 [AZD1222; Oxford–AstraZeneca], and Ad26.COV2.S [Janssen]):
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanres/article/PIIS2213-2600(23)00015-2/fulltext
…VE against Omicron was 32% at 140–167 DAYS after injection.
Yes, the Covid bug mutates. Therefore, don’t tell us that the Covid shot, at 96% VE in late 2020 on a curated group of 40,000 people in a trial run for a few months,, will stay at 96% as a preventative thing for a long time.
Many of us aren’t antivaxxers….we simply distrust charlatans.
“But boostahs ALWAYS were neeeeded!”. - jab pushers conventiently forgetting that cowpox provided permanent immunity to smallpox.
Do you know what the percentage is for people who had chickenpox as a child?
So, is this new vax based on mRNA tech? If so, I’ll pass. I’ll probably pass anyhow, as I’ve developed serious trust issues since 2020.
How long til this shot has the other shot in it?
Who told us that? It was known very early on that COVID mutated at least as fast as flu viruses. The simple fact of it being a coronavirus would have lead me to guess mutation would be even faster than for most flus.
Ping - Zoster Vax
I read somewhere that Ivermectin is effective against Shingles. I’ll try that instead.
Shringrix has adjuvants. Additives that irritate tissues and cause inflammation, which seems to be necessary to provoke a strong immune response. That additional efficacy with inflammation is why back in the day your smallpox vaccination was made with a little forked needle to make a good welt.
The problem is chemical adjuvants can make you develop an immune system reaction to random other self tissues. Autoimmune diseases can take years to emerge, are difficult to identify and diagnose, and almost never have a root cause proven.
I get shingles outbreaks but so far just a few itch areas and blisters. But I dread autoimmune diseases. So I refuse Shingrix.
They gave a lot of soldiers in Gulf War 1 an experimental anthrax vaccine loaded with em,then later denied the vets medical benefits for Gulf War Syndrome was because the diseases they ended up with did not fit a simple symptom list.
One big reason adjuvants are used is to lessen the amount of antigen need to get a good reaction, so the vaccines are cheaper to manufacture.
I’m not an antivaxer either but I am very wary of adjuvants. Actually some of the problems with MRNA vaccines may also have to do with adjuvants. Some people think that there is graphene in some of them as an adjuvant.
I’ve heard the shingles vaccine can come with some pretty unpleasant and persistent side effects.
If you’ve ever had the shingles, you’ll wish you had the vaccine. If you haven’t got them yet you’ll wish you had the vaccine when you do.
Imagine the most intense burning nerve pain and then double it.
And then there’s the long lasting nerve damage after it subsides.
Do what you will but this is my humble advice.
I though that when a vaccine was “effective”, it meant that you still got the illness but it was hypothetically less severe?
What changed?
Not really. A vaccine is supposed to work like the polio vaccine works. I had mine some 70 years ago, and it's still effective.
Shingles was the single most traumatic event of my life.
7 weeks of hell.
Get that vax.
This is interesting to me. I have a sister who had shingles about 20 years ago. She is under high stress did not get the Covid vaccine and they told me last week that she was going to get this shingles vaccine. So she went to Publix and got it. Came over to my house. The other day said her arm hurt really bad. Called me up at night. Said she was really sick but so was her husband. They went to the doctor and got meds for whatever they have, mainly sinus.
This morning at 4 o’clock she texted me saying she has shingles. She told me that the only person that they have on record that got shingles from the vaccine is a 73 yo woman with a weak immune system. My sister is a 73-year-old woman with a kidney transplant 40 years ago.
I had shingles maybe 12 years ago, not sure. Got it on my face in my eye, I have scars, it is not something to be trifled with.
They say it comes from having had chickenpox as a child and not being around children for a long time with chickenpox. We used to get immunity storm and the kids but now the kids all have had vaccines, that’s what I heard.
the reason people get shingles in the fist place is because there is very little chickenpox in the wild.
I am looking for a pox party so I can be exposed again and my immune system will be recharged and I will never get shingles.
did anyone else notice the huge increase of shingles when people started getting jabed, and their immune systems getting overwhelmed with spike proteins ?
"Antivaxxer" - That's what I get called when they find I didn't get the Covid vax - then I tell them I got the Shingles vax after seeing three years worth of good data. "Oh"
Had 10 days of shingles on my face, followed by years of post-herpetic neuralgia. The worst pain ever for weeks, screaming while being tortured for 5 minutes every few hours as PHN waves would reappear, until my neurologist prescribed gabapentin and amitriptyline. I took those for a few months until the waves went away.
Still feel the effects 9 years later, even as I’m sitting here writing this. Took the Shingrix shot later, happily.
Nope. Not taking their word for it, thanks.
I’ll wait a while.
over a year later, I still have a sizable scab cluster from shingles on my back. a doctor visit a couple weeks ago I asked about it... She said go and get the vaccine. They can come back. no words at all to my question, how much longer will this scab remain/how do I get rid of it!?? (itches constantaly!!)
Any of you know how to get rid of it??