I'm interested to hear views on this.
Do you follow "eye for an eye" in these cases or do you think the death penalty is too much?
How Soviet Union of you, David.
Institutionalize your political enemies and "wrong-thinkers".
For what it’s worth most people in the UK according to polls would bring it back in specific cases (murder of children especially)
Over 50%+
The fact that Leftists only oppose Capital Punishment because it PREVENTS them from eventually getting killers released from jail is a good enough reason for me to support it.
If you don’t believe the above consider some examples:
1. The Left had NO PROBLEM with the Oklahoma City bomber being executed. Not saying he didn’t deserve it, just pointing out their their objection is ‘situational’.
2. The has NO PROBLEM calling for the execution of Kyle Rittenhouse, Trump, and the Jan 6th tourists - again, ‘situational’ ethics regarding their objections.
So, given the above, no way will I ever oppose the Death Penalty.
How long did it take for Smith to kill his victim?
Any form of democrat approved capital punishment is too lenient.
Bring back the gallows, the firing squad, the dunking chair, the guillotine, any thing to deter senseless criminal behavior which has beset us.
With biden’z border door barred open as it is
the situation can only get worse.
There seems to be no fear of our judicial system.
I prefer they get tortured until near death. And then when they heal, torture some more, especially if they are Deep State globalist. /spit
I belive i n Caputal Punishment as a deterrant.
In Canada where I temporarily reside, thelack of Capital Punishment has resulted in a rise in the murder/manslaughter rates.
THe most one can get is life , most murder convictions result in a maximum of 25 years with the oissibulity of early parole unless it was a hate crime.Very bad deterrence.
Modern chemical executions are cruel , the best way is execution by hanging, the long drop.Its over just like that
in a snap.Second best is execution by firing squad. Its over in an instant.
But if yiu want to make a murder suffer on their journey to hell, chemical execution is wonderful.
The left has no issue fanatically demanding the murder of babies but when it comes to a monster like Kenneth Eugene Smith, out come the crocodile tears. I guess the left feels kinship with killers.
Death is the only just punishment for murder.
Icke is deranged.
The finality and certainty of a verdict of capital punishment can and does serve to focus the mind.
When the time comes for these individuals to confess, do penance, and die as believing Catholics, that’s what they need to do.
There’s a moral difference between “ killing innocents” and “ the death penalty as justice for taking innocent life”
Killing innocents is a loss for society
The death penalty as a potential deterrent is a gain for society
The death penalty that removes a threat of future violence against innocents from a psychopath or sociopath killer is a gain for society
Killing in war has been deemed as morally justifiable for the greater good. The same argument could be made for executing humans who fail to act human and kill innocents. Though I think the method should be hanging, or by the same means as the victim was killed. Killer’s choice.
If judges and juries truly applied life sentences without parole, it could replace execution. But they don’t. The bleeding hearts are their own worst enemies,
As a side note, I watched a show years ago about Dr. Jack Kevorkian, I forget the name of it. But in it, they went through various methods of ending life looking for which method was the most humane and at the end it came out that inhaling nitrogen was. They claim it makes the person feel giddy and they used something having to do with diving as an example. I am assuming this is why they used nitrogen to kill this guuy.
I am reminded of:
“An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind.” — M. K. Gandhi
I think HIV/AIDS is exactly the biological equivalent of having NO “death penalty.”
State-sponsored execution is legitimate use of force. It’s the state acting as agency for the injured who, in many cases, was unable to or disallowed from defending themself with appropriate lethal force (via “gun control” laws, for example).
This is no different from “putting down” or “euthanizing” (or whatever touchy-feely euphemism du jour makes the necessity more palatable) dogs that attack and harm humans without provocation.
The fact that such a heinous, egregious act has been committed by another - albeit deranged, sociopathic or otherwise diagnosable “mentally ill” - ostensibly human being just makes the execution all the more urgent.
Get that rabid animal out of the gene pool so the rest of us can swim safely.
THAT has been my take on it since before high school and I stand by it now over 50 years later.
"The clause in the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides:
No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.[4]
The clause in Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution provides:
...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.[5]"
The article then elaborates how the Fifth Amendment refers to federal law and the Fourteenth Amendment refers to state laws.
So, if due process is followed, life may be taken from a person according to federal and state laws.
Letter to Studius (Letter XXV)
Excerpt:
“This letter of St. Ambrose to Studius, written in the 360s, is addressed to what scholars take to be a lay Christian who was conflicted about his office as a judge in a capital case, and his duty as a Christian. Prior to the end of the persecutions in 313 with the Edict of Milan, Christians did not undertake such offices, though St. Ambrose alludes to a distinction between how the Church and heretical groups treated Christian judges who did.”
https://www.ewtn.com/catholicism/library/ambrose-letter-to-studius-14630
Before modern times almost all crimes had the death penalty. That’s because everyone worked and if they didn’t work and weren’t taken care of by family then they died. There were no prisons, not for ordinary crimes or ordinary people. The movies we see about ancient times where they have dark, dank prisons with the obligatory skeleton hanging in an iron maiden are pure Hollywood. There may have been a few like that but they’d have been very much the exception rather than the rule. What this dearth of prisons resulted in was a lot of death penalties. Do this crime, get killed for it. The executions were public and occasions much like a county fair with vendors selling products. These festive occasions enforced on the people that those in charge were in charge and violating their rules was going to get you killed.
During the Industrial Revolution society got much wealthier. People became educated and those running society took on the Christian evangelical need to convert those who had strayed back to the path of righteousness. They built prisons. After some time, they tried to improve the prisons to improve recidivism. Enlightened people, and that’s definitely us because we are wearing wigs, don’t kill people for small crimes. The prison system was a massive failure.
Today it costs as much to keep someone in prison as it does to send them to Harvard. I’d argue it’s time to look at how we deter crime as the system we have now is like the world’s most expensive finishing school for crime PhD’s. But just killing people who are clearly a danger to others makes perfect sense to me, especially if it saves society the cost of a Harvard crime education where the student never graduates…and if he does, he kills someone. Probably the reason we don’t have capital punishment is due to Hollywood and a relative few but widely publicized failures of the criminal justice system.
2. I have no confidence in our so-called “criminal justice” system anymore — so I don’t believe most state and Federal courts have the moral authority to even put people in jail, let alone execute them.
Bring back hanging.
It’s still the best way.
We look for high tech gimmicks to pretend away an ugly act.
If you’re going to do this, hanging (by breaking the neck) is still a fast, reliable, little and short pain if any, cheap and clean way to do it.
Everything else doesn’t work as well: electrocution, firing squad, lethal injection, guillotine (abroad), gas chamber, or now nitrogen.