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V-22 Osprey grounded. Billion-dollar machines won't fly again
ESSA News via MSN ^ | 12/8/2023 | KMO

Posted on 12/09/2023 9:51:17 AM PST by logi_cal869

The United States has chosen to ground all V-22 Osprey tiltrotor aircraft until the underlying causes of a recent crash, which took place off the coast of Japan on November 29, are fully understood. This isn't the first time issues have surfaced with the aircraft, an inventive blend of a plane and a helicopter. Despite ongoing development for over 30 years, the design continues to pose serious complications.

The Pentagon announced the suspension of all operational activities involving the various Osprey variants following the tragic accident of a CV-22 off the Japanese coast on November 29. That crash resulted in the deaths of eight members of the U.S. Air Force Special Forces. Japan has also grounded its fleet of 14 tiltrotor aircraft. The duration of this grounding remains uncertain.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aviation; grounded; osprey; v22
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Note: Headline makes a claim not evidenced in the story.

Regardless, long overdue for this deathtrap.

1 posted on 12/09/2023 9:51:17 AM PST by logi_cal869
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To: logi_cal869

Can we assume all the military contractors and their ‘friends’ got their money and perks?


2 posted on 12/09/2023 9:53:06 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: logi_cal869

Trouble from the start.


3 posted on 12/09/2023 9:58:30 AM PST by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remvove RINOs by voting for them!)
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To: GOPJ
Can we assume all the military contractors and their ‘friends’ got their [blood] money and perks?

Presumed.

4 posted on 12/09/2023 9:59:41 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: GOPJ

Absolutely. Probably 3 or 4 budget increases over the last 2 decades.


5 posted on 12/09/2023 10:00:24 AM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: logi_cal869

I first saw an Osprey at a NAS Moffett airshow, back before Google took it over. I wanted to run for cover.


6 posted on 12/09/2023 10:02:34 AM PST by fretzer
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To: logi_cal869
V 22 is like the WW2 B 26 Marauder, nick named "Widow Maker".


7 posted on 12/09/2023 10:03:08 AM PST by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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To: logi_cal869

Did this thing ever really conduct any successful missions? What kind of comparison with the Huey or Blackhawk with a cost benefit analysis. Doesnt really have a direct replacement which means the contractors will show us the next direction we need to go to keep their coffers liquid in cash and benefits with their latest design of electric helicopter/rocket/plane/attack dune buggy.


8 posted on 12/09/2023 10:06:43 AM PST by Delta 21 (If anyone is treasonous, it is those who call me such.)
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To: logi_cal869

https://www.boeing.com/features/2023/06/22-fast-facts-on-the-bell-boeing-v-22-osprey.page

In its 34 years of service, more than 475 V-22s have been ordered to complete combat and humanitarian missions worldwide

At present, the V-22 has surpassed more than 700,000 flight hours


9 posted on 12/09/2023 10:06:45 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: null and void; aragorn; EnigmaticAnomaly; kalee; Kale; AZ .44 MAG; Baynative; bgill; bitt; ...

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They will be better when they make them electric....


10 posted on 12/09/2023 10:12:06 AM PST by bitt (<img src=' 'width=30%>)
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To: logi_cal869

https://www.mcipac.marines.mil/Portals/28/Documents/MV22Guidebook.pdf

v-22 ospry guidebook


11 posted on 12/09/2023 10:12:53 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: Bonemaker

Except, the issues with the B26 were resolved pretty quickly, with sliderules.

The V22 has had how long, using supercomputers.


12 posted on 12/09/2023 10:12:59 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Looks like I'll have to buy the White Album again.)
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To: logi_cal869

What’s the immediate replacement?

(And, no....I did not read the article :)


13 posted on 12/09/2023 10:15:04 AM PST by Jane Long (What we were told was a conspiracy theory in ‘20 is now fact. Land of the sheep, home of the knaves)
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To: logi_cal869

https://taskandpurpose.com/tech-tactics/v-22-osprey-crash-history/

And despite the Osprey’s negative reputation, you won’t find its incident record as a dangerous outlier in service-wide or branch-specific data. As Marine Maj. Jorge Hernandez, spokesman for Marine aviation, explained to the Military Times in a July e-mail, the Marine Corps’ MV-22 Osprey has a lower mishap rate per 100,000 flight hours than the Harrier, Super Hornet, F-35B, or CH-53E Super Stallion.


14 posted on 12/09/2023 10:15:27 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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I would rather get this sort of information from an expert..   This is what Lt. Commander Ward Carroll (Ret.) had to say:

Deep Intel on Why ALL Ospreys are Grounded

15 posted on 12/09/2023 10:18:13 AM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: logi_cal869

They need to upgrade to the Dornier 31 / 231.


16 posted on 12/09/2023 10:18:30 AM PST by PAR35
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To: logi_cal869

WW2:

The Nazis built very complex tanks. Their Tiger tank was a fearsome beast - when it wasn’t broken down.
The Soviets built simple and reliable tanks. Their T-34 is a perfect example.

And we all know who won that little dust-up.
Perhaps there’s a lesson there.


17 posted on 12/09/2023 10:20:42 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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To: PeterPrinciple

My focus has always been upon the cargo (aka ‘victims’, usually Marines).

This is where I assign criminal culpability to leadership and cheerleaders of the platform.


18 posted on 12/09/2023 10:21:43 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Delta 21

“Doesnt really have a direct replacement”

An earlier poster says that the Bell V-280 Valor has been chosen by the Army as a replacement for the UH-60 Black Hawk, a single-rotor helicopter.

Look up the V-280 in Wikipedia. It also has twin rotors like the V-22 but the engines are in the V-280’s body, not out on the wingtips.


19 posted on 12/09/2023 10:21:50 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: PeterPrinciple
I wonder what is prompting all this hatred of the V-22 Osprey?

For what it's designed to do, it does it better than anything else out there.

And no, I don't have any dog in this fight. I have absolutely no connection to it or anyone who builds it.

And for those of you worried about the "Military Industrial Complex", you need to be more worried about the "Government Industrial Complex" and the Welfare Industrial Complex".

20 posted on 12/09/2023 10:22:24 AM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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