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To: armydoc

Who only drives 10,000 miles a year.
Young man I work with has a Tesla he purchased a year ago last summer.
About 18 months ago. I just ask him the miles on car. He said 31000. I am outside now looking at it. Yep. Got brand new tires.


23 posted on 12/08/2023 7:06:35 AM PST by Iceclimber58
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To: Iceclimber58; armydoc
Who only drives 10,000 miles a year. Young man I work with has a Tesla he purchased a year ago last summer. About 18 months ago. I just ask him the miles on car. He said 31000. I am outside now looking at it. Yep. Got brand new tires.

When it was time a year and a half ago to replace my wife's old ICE crossover, I did the research and math on if it'd be in our best interest to replace it with another used ICE crossover, a new ICE crossover, or a new EV crossover.

Going EV meant an increase in weight of about 10%, so I assumed an increase in tire replacement cost of 10%. I assumed that to roughly equal the savings in brake pad replacement cost (because most braking in an EV is done with regen braking leaving little wear on brake pads).

As far as miles to drive per year to get enough savings in gas and oil changes to be worth the flat extra costs with EV's ($200 annual EV fee in Alabama to account for not paying gas taxes, plus extra in monthly premium for car insurance for full coverage of a more expensive vehicle -- in my case that's $40/month extra going from liability only coverage of an old car to full coverage of a new, more expensive car). Then there's the fact that on average I was replacing our used ICE car every 7 years with another used ICE car, but going EV meant replacing the battery at 10 years for $10K in today's prices (more if it's expensive like a Tesla). Then there's the up front cost of installing a home charger.

With all of that I determined that about 12K miles per year is the threshold for if getting an EV is better than an ICE (using Alabama costs for gas and power). Since we drive our EV 26K miles per year, with about 16K of those miles charged at home, it's really worth it for us.

But all of that is from a free market perspective, not from forcing EV's onto us like the Dims want. Other reasons IMHO to not get an EV besides if you don't drive enough miles are: if you're not in the market anyway for a car (get all of the good you have in your existing cars before spending money on another one), you have no way to charge it at home, you need only 1 car (i.e. married people often need 2 cars) so that you wouldn't have an ICE car for the long trips in areas with poor fast chargers, most of the long trips you drive are in areas that don't have good fast chargers (assuming the EV would be your new car, you'd want it to usually be the one you take on long trips), or if the ICE car you need to replace soon is a pickup that you often use for pickup chores (I every now and then carry too much weight too long distances for an EV pickup to fit my needs).

29 posted on 12/08/2023 9:01:02 AM PST by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: Iceclimber58

Yeah, 10k is a bit low but not by much. Fedgov says average nationally of 14k with state averages ranging from 7k (DC) to 24K (WY)
https://www.trustedchoice.com/insurance-articles/wheels-wings-motors/average-miles-driven-per-year/


32 posted on 12/08/2023 3:09:12 PM PST by armydoc
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