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Turkish Strategy & the War in Ukraine - Arms, Economics, Negotiations & Pragmatism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s46-rQo3T2c ^ | 8/6/2023 | Perun

Posted on 08/06/2023 2:45:35 PM PDT by Chode

Description: Ankara's role during the war in Ukraine is a complex and sometimes controversial one. As a NATO member but not an EU state, the Turks have continued to expand their trade with Russia and have continued an open dialogue with Moscow. On the other hand, Türkiye's military industry has supplied Ukraine even before the full scale invasion and Turkish policy has been full throated in its support for Ukraine's territorial integrity - including Crimea.

Turkish policy is complex and, to use the words of a former NATO assistant Secretary General - compartmentalised. It often involves cooperation even with potential strategic rivals, and sometimes tense and transactional interactions with general allies. In this episode I wanted to explore the nation's defence capabilities, economic and strategic situation, and see how that may have helped inform Erdogan's policy in Ukraine - and how that policy may impact the war going forward.


TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: perun

1 posted on 08/06/2023 2:45:35 PM PDT by Chode
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To: Chode

weekly Perun...


2 posted on 08/06/2023 2:45:55 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

Many times people make the mistake of saying or implying there are two sides in the Ukraine fight. There are at least several more than two, Turkey being one of the important ones.


3 posted on 08/06/2023 3:11:02 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: FreedomPoster

The “sick man of Europe” is a pain in the ass to everyone. Turkiye should not be in NATO. Its rabid muslim leader is a nut case, making everyone’s role in all this mess harder.


4 posted on 08/06/2023 3:15:48 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Fungi

Turkey is waiting for Russia’s decline, and then it will start to put together the new Ottoman Empire.


5 posted on 08/06/2023 3:19:05 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: FreedomPoster

yup...


6 posted on 08/06/2023 3:25:34 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Fungi

Erdogan is a nasty piece of work.


7 posted on 08/06/2023 3:31:00 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Chode
--- weekly Perun...

An Australian who'd focused on gaming is now source for "Arms, Economics, Negotiations & Pragmatism." This is probably how the Dutch lads got their start, and how Mom's Denys operates, only he really rakes in the income. For the weekly Perun...

The channel "Perun" is monetized!
Since Mar 23, 2012, the channel has generated 60,119,090 views. Assuming all views were monetized from day 1* with an average RPM of $3.00, this channel has generated $180,357.27 over 4152 days. That's an average of $15,855.11 per year.

https://www.patreon.com/PerunAU
2,975 members for 38 posts

Compared to Mom's oft-cited Kanal13 and its $565,194.87 per year, poor Perun needs some support.... Or he won't be able to quit his day job.
8 posted on 08/06/2023 3:43:03 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

so what???


9 posted on 08/06/2023 3:55:25 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode
--- "so what???"

No particular so what. Just an observation. In between Perun as one end of the content creator spectrum and Kanal13 as representative of a top end, one finds Macgregor at something around $35K. I find it interesting that so many sources have champions with one stance and champions with another stance. One says "don't believe that discredited one," and the opposing says quite the same thing in the opposing direction. I find that interesting.

10 posted on 08/06/2023 4:43:10 PM PDT by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

nothing on that list negates his data...

and nobody ask you to agree wi him


11 posted on 08/06/2023 5:14:28 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Chode

.


12 posted on 08/06/2023 5:48:11 PM PDT by sauropod (I will stand for truth even if I stand alone.)
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To: dfwgator

Three points

1. Russia is already in decline

2. Turkiye is in decline compared to its neighbours

3. The new Ottoman empire has strong enemies on all sides. To the south and east, iran is not going to tolerate another Seljuk attempt at expansion.


13 posted on 08/07/2023 1:37:53 AM PDT by Cronos (I identify as an ambulance, my pronounces are wee/woo)
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