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To: ganeemead

Russian Neocons are having a hared time, what with Russia
now having to defend it’s own soil these days.

Sad.

How man Russians have died now on Putin’s little easy few
day escapade?

I see some folks talking about the Ukraine disaster, and
they don’t seem to realize that Russia has paid a very big
price for this quagmire.


7 posted on 05/24/2023 11:59:56 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the USofA & to the Constitutional REPUBLIC for which it stands.)
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Nixon notes that when Country 404 collapses and the war is over, there will be people from the hundreds of little villages and towns coming up to the new bosses in Kiev (the old bosses will hqve been hanged) with one basic question:

When are all the men coming home??

Guess what.....

8 posted on 05/25/2023 12:11:19 AM PDT by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: DoughtyOne
see some folks talking about the Ukraine disaster, and they don’t seem to realize that Russia has paid a very big price for this quagmire

People see what they want to see. Others look at the facts. Others post opinions with no factual backing at all. I suggest this is your case. Particularly, what is the very big price of which you speak? Seriously, Russia seems to be doing fine. Are we looking at the same stats?

12 posted on 05/25/2023 12:31:18 AM PDT by SandwicheGuy ("Man is the only pack animal that will follow an unstable leader." Cesar Chavetz)
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To: DoughtyOne

Russia has paid a big price for the war, but so have we and the EU. We have borrowed close to $200 billion so far to prolong this proxy war with our stated goals of weakening the Russian military and removing Putin.

The sanctions have backfired hurting The West more than deterring Russia. We have sleepwalked ourselves into a new Cold War and driven Russia and China closer together. The BRIC countries have expanded threatening the role of the dollar as the world’s reserve currency. The Saudis and Iran are working together against our interests in the region. Syria is back in the Arab League. Taiwan is in danger. NATO is developing cracks. Domestic opposition to the war in Ukraine is increasing in Europe with 7 million Ukrainian refugees scattered throughout the continent. And Zelensky wants $800 billion to rebuild Ukraine.

What is the exit strategy from this war? Does anyone trust the Biden national security team, which is in the process of destroying our military through its woke policies that have caused major recruitment and retention problems? The debt servicing costs on our national debt will soon exceed the budget for DOD. Yet, we continue to fund this endless war that doesn’t involve our strategic national interests. The reality is that Ukraine cannot defeat Russia nor can it retake Crimea, which Putin considers to be part of Russia.

We are stuck to this tar baby and Biden can’t figure how to get unstuck. We have changed the global political landscape and we have become more isolated due to the war. The war in Ukraine is an albatross around Biden’s neck. It will be a major issue in the 2024 race if we are still involved in the war. The recent approval of F-16s for Ukraine is just another escalation in a war we are losing. How can the continued destruction and senseless loss of life be defended as being in the best interests of Ukraine?

This war has been going on since 2014 when the Obama/Biden regime engineered a coup against the duly elected government of Ukraine. Nuland, the chief architect of the coup, is back in power and raising the stakes as revenge for the loss of Crimea and the Donbas. We are paying a terrible price for these misguided policies. Ukraine represents a catastrophic failure of diplomacy.


25 posted on 05/25/2023 5:14:18 AM PDT by kabar
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