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To: ought-six

An FA-18 has a range of 1250 miles, so it can launch from a carrier 600 miles offshore and take out the AS battery without the carrier ever coming under threat by that battery.==

You definitely not thinking on what I said. Just follow the thought.
Any aircraft needs to come back home so it simply can NOT carry same amount of fuel as AS missile which flies only one way. So any ways with any other conditions are same any AS missile will have twice range comparing with any aircraft. It is just physics.
So it means that carrier always will get under fire of ASes long BEFORE its aircraft may reach AS battery.
And BTW most common Russian AS Kalibr which can be installed even on a small cutter or submarine has a range 1,600 miles but FA-18 just 600(you said). So you see a math? And I didn’t even talk about a cost effectiveness of all these yet))).


156 posted on 04/18/2023 9:18:24 AM PDT by nickfrost1
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“You definitely not thinking on what I said. Just follow the thought. Any aircraft needs to come back home so it simply can NOT carry same amount of fuel as AS missile which flies only one way.”

And you claim you are smarter than Westerners, and can do calculus in your head without any effort? You’re a fraud, Ivan. You said ANY aircraft can NOT carry the same amount of fuel as an AS missile. For one thing, fuel itself is not the issue; it is fuel CONSUMPTION that matters. Do you have any idea how stupid your remark is? Hell, just US fighters alone blow your argument out of the water: F-35...1,350 miles; F-22...1,864 miles; FA-18...2,069 miles; F-15...2,300 miles; F-16...2,622 miles. Fully armed the distances would be shorter, obviously. But these numbers are the ranges without refueling; and, of course, they can be refueled in flight.

The AS missile has a range of, at most, 500 miles, and that is without the sensors needed for an accurate strike. Do the math, idiot: Even the shortest range aircraft, the F-35, has more than enough to hit a target 500 miles away and return without having to refuel. Your one-way AS missile will drop into the sea after, at most, 500 miles. Even the F-35 ONE WAY has more range than your AS missile.

“It is just physics.”

You know nothing about physics. No wonder you guys can’t design and build a competent aircraft carrier.

“So it means that carrier always will get under fire of ASes long BEFORE its aircraft may reach AS battery.”

My God, but you are dense. If the AS missile has a maximum range of 500 miles, and the carrier is 600 miles away, that AS missile will fall into the sea 100 miles short of its target. But the aircraft that took off from that carrier, even fully loaded, could hit the AS battery and return with gas to spare.

“And BTW most common Russian AS Kalibr which can be installed even on a small cutter or submarine has a range 1,600 miles but FA-18 just 600(you said). So you see a math?”

Yeah; but you don’t.

For your reading pleasure, Ivan:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalibr_(missile_family)

Not a ONE of the Kalibr missiles in service has a range of 1600 miles. Longer range missiles are in development, but that does not mean they have been developed or perfected. Your carrier the Admiral Kutzsenov was under development at one time, too: How did that work out, Ivan?


157 posted on 04/18/2023 2:25:55 PM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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