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NM school board trainer on hot mic: ‘Parental rights end’ in public school
The Piñon Post ^ | March 23, 2023 | Piñon Post staff

Posted on 03/24/2023 1:55:40 PM PDT by CedarDave

A new undercover audio recording released by Freedom Families United, a group that specializes in exposing educators and systems pushing “woke” policies, appears to show a New Mexico School Boards Association trainer, Andrew Sanchez, teaching school board members anti-parent policies.

“We’re going to start basic ... power of the board. You… shall have the following power: to develop educational policy for the school district,” Sanchez says.

~snip~

He told the school board members in training, “Remember, your most powerful governing tool is the power of the pocketbook. The school district doesn’t do anything unless you’re going to fund it, right? These are very fine points of why you’re so valuable and so important with regards to public education.”

“Parental rights are developed by the common law. The idea of the common law was that only parents had the ability to tell… to say what was important for their child. Religious freedom: What basically the argument that has been happening now is people are arguing that the religious beliefs trump and allow them to discriminate against others.”

“In other words, now they are saying that the constitutional rights have precedence over each other. So you’re going to see a lot more everything based on that religious freedom-type argument.”

"... You [parents] do not have the fundamental right to tell the school district how to teach your child. Your choice is if you don’t like it, you can go to a private school that was more aligned with your political or your religious beliefs” (emphasis added).

Sanchez said, “So, this all boils down to parental rights being: They have the right to pick the system they want their kid to enter, but once they enter it, they cannot tell a public school how to teach their child or what to teach your child.

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Gateway Pundit had an earlier story yesterday that was linked on FR (hat tip LegendHasIt). This post provides additional material from the video to reinforce the message that public schools teach what the teacher's unions want them to teach and what the parent wants doesn't matter. Yet still more discussion and reader comments are provided at today's link and FR readers are encouraged to read the full article.
1 posted on 03/24/2023 1:55:40 PM PDT by CedarDave
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To: LegendHasIt; leapfrog0202; Santa Fe_Conservative; DesertDreamer; OneWingedShark; CougarGA7; ...

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2 posted on 03/24/2023 1:57:02 PM PDT by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: The medical equivalent of Russian roulette!)
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To: CedarDave

His job should end.


3 posted on 03/24/2023 1:57:20 PM PDT by Irenic
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To: DoodleBob

apologies for the unsolicited ping, but your recent, relevant remarks are stuck in the foreground of my mind


4 posted on 03/24/2023 2:00:09 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Irenic

That IS his job.

Parents’ job is to raise their children. When they put their kids into a system that advocates for this they have to answer for it


5 posted on 03/24/2023 2:02:48 PM PDT by stanne
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To: CedarDave

They used to have these iron cages they hung on crossroads and bridges for all the people to see such as these locked inside till their bones fell free.


6 posted on 03/24/2023 2:02:50 PM PDT by Dogbert41
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To: CedarDave
“You have the right to go to a private school”
The trainer doesn't know how right he is. The money should follow the parents. The Parents should chose which school the child attends.

To argue any other position makes no logical sense given our constitution. If parents choose a woke school that is their choice and nobody else’s. If parents choose a Muslim or Evangelical or Objectivist school that is their choice and nobbody else’s.

We need to constantly argue from logic based on: you have the right.

7 posted on 03/24/2023 2:04:05 PM PDT by spintreebob (ki .h )
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To: Dogbert41

Those are called gibbets, I believe.


8 posted on 03/24/2023 2:06:14 PM PDT by No name given (Anonymous is who you’ll know me as.)
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To: CedarDave

I am of the opinion that school curriculum is public record in practice and should be public record by law. In fact, State Legislatures should REQUIRE that the curriculum be published, via the Internet prior to receiving any funding.


9 posted on 03/24/2023 2:10:35 PM PDT by taxcontrol (The choice is clear - either live as a slave on your knees or die as a free citizen on your feet.)
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To: CedarDave

IMO, the gender woke CRT LGBTQABCDEF crap being pushed on kids in public schools is NOT EDUCATION, so even if this puke is correct in his spewed BS, Parents still have the right to veto/stop/protest/sue over the gender woke CRT LGBTQABCDEF crap.


10 posted on 03/24/2023 2:11:56 PM PDT by jpp113
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To: CedarDave

Fair enough. Home or private then.


11 posted on 03/24/2023 2:13:05 PM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) Rufus T Firefly lives on. )
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To: CedarDave

Andrew “Dirty” Sanchez. OK, Groomer.


12 posted on 03/24/2023 2:13:26 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: Gene Eric; DoodleBob
Here is the text of DoodleBob's excellent post on the other thread:

Everyone needs to understand that these battle lines were drawn a LONG time ago, and the left has pretty deftly boxed in many people along legal, ethical, and moral dimensions.

Indeed, one thing that leftists tend to do better than conservatives is to keep the offense on the field, even if they have a 4th and out. To be fair, they can do that because this game's officials (the MSM, most of Leviathan, and about 20% of the nation) are either Establishment Liberals or Progressive Left. Thus, while most people would see a clean tackle on these issues, the officials call a personal foul on the defense and it's a new 1st and 10.

This 20%/statist lot have very quietly but very effectively built an offensive strategy aimed at parent's rights. And while this putz in New Mexico is annoying, he's right - under In loco parentis you surrendered certain parental rights when you turned Johnny or Mary over to the school. That is the foot in the door.

In the latest assault to bust that door wide open, the left turned "trans kids" into human shields. (In a few cases, there ARE actual medical situations where parents need care and support; it's a family matter. But those instances are rare. Many other cases are acts of rebellion.)

In doing so, these statists have recast (intentionally) this as an issue of contemporary morality, a "civil rights" issue. In this offensive play, it absolutely IS the job of the teacher to address pronouns AND keep it from the parents, because the teachers have an ethical responsibility to the child which trumps the parents' right to know. In this separate article, it was stated that:

Educators have also said they feel bound by their own morality to affirm students’ gender identities, especially in cases where students don’t feel safe coming out at home. (emphasis-added)

...

Other teachers believe they have a moral responsibility to withhold such information. "My job, which is a public service, is to protect kids,” said Olivia Garrison, a history teacher in Bakersfield, Calif., who is nonbinary, who has helped students socially transition at school without their parents’ knowledge. “Sometimes, they need protection from their own parents.”

...

Courts have ruled that under the Fourteenth Amendment, parents get to make medical and mental health decisions for their children, as well as direct their education and upbringing in other ways, unless they are abusive or unfit. But lawyers for schools have countered that parental rights aren’t absolute. Under the Biden Administration, the Department of Education has said that discriminating against students based on gender identity violates federal policy, although its guidance doesn’t specifically address parental rights.

The American Civil Liberties Union has also argued that it’s unconstitutional for public schools to reveal a student’s gender identity to others. Angry parents can put their child in private school or home-school them, said an A.C.L.U. lawyer, Jon Davidson, who is co-counsel for a school district that was sued by parents in Wisconsin. "Parents don’t have a constitutional right to dictate to schools how they should create an optimal learning environment for students,” he said.

There is even more. The National Association for the Education of Young Children in 2019 argued that if a teacher deems a problem (e.g., comply with this family’s request to keep a son from activities associated with girls or femininity) to be that of an ethical responsibility (a situation with just one morally justified course of action) and not an ethical dilemma (a situation for which there is more than one possible resolution, which can be justified in moral terms) , THEY CAN IGNORE THE PARENTS.

In the summmer of 2020, when most of us were dealing with re-election and the pandemic, the ACLU wrote a letter to school principals and superintendents saying:

Specifically, without full and voluntary consent by the student, it is against the law to disclose a student’s sexual orientation or gender identity, even to a student’s parents (emphasis added) or other school administrators.

Finally, the National Association of Secondary School Principals issued this ruling in February 2017 (based on the date stamp in the html code) that:

Privacy: Unless the student chooses to disclose certain information, his or her transgender status, legal name or sex assigned at birth is confidential medical information and considered “personally identifiable information” under the Family Educational Rights Privacy Act (FERPA). Disclosure of that information to other school staff or parents could violate the school’s obligations under FERPA or constitutional privacy protections. (emphasis added)

The groundwork for this teacher takeover of parent's rights was laid years ago. To a certain extent, the pandemic messed up their plans because many parents who aren't political saw on Zoom what their kids were learning, and got involved. But, as I said, the left is really good at being aggressive, even if they lose on 4th and goal. Because they know, with a lot of spineless opponents, they'll get the football back.

Anyone who homeschooled their kids had many reasons, but at its core we believe that WE, the PARENTS and GUARDIANS, are the ones who can best call the shots. Our rights in that regard are plenary. And yes, as with all rights, abuses occur. But just like with the right to keep and bear arms, plenary rights cannot be watered down due to the behavior of bad actors.

And yes, while all this may SEEM like a trans or gay thing, that's just the entertainment division of the Educational/Industrial Complex hypnotizing you. Maybe the kids are becoming "trans" like kids became goths as an act of rebellion. They outgrow it (usually).

But the left plays the entire game. They know this whole debate will play out in the public and courts for YEARS. By then, even if we get a win, the damage will be done and a generation of confused kids will not know of parents rights. In fact, the ones on the margin and who aren't totally brainwashed will ask Mom and Dad "why the f didn't you pull me out of school?" What will be YOUR response? We needed two incomes, we had a mortgage, you weren't that important.

The left's end game? It's always speculative, but it's worth noting that the 10th plank of the Communist Manifesto is "Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc.

Or, as the Dead Kennedy's said, you'll work harder with a gun in your back, for a bowl of rice a day.

This won't be solved by letters to the editor, getting on the School Board, or ranting on FR. If you have a child, you must understand this gridiron, and that the officials are on the other team's payroll. You must also understand that what's at stake is more than whether you son gets to be called Florence at school.

Be MacArthur and leave Corregidor NOW. You can always return later, BUT LEAVE NOW.

/rant


13 posted on 03/24/2023 2:16:11 PM PDT by CedarDave (Pfizer's boosters: The medical equivalent of Russian roulette!)
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To: CedarDave

Sanchez said, “So, this all boils down to parental rights being: They have the right to pick the system they want their kid to enter, but once they enter it, they cannot tell a public school how to teach their child or what to teach your child.
__________
In other words it’s coming down to this: Choose ye THIS day Whom ye will serve. God or the US Corporation.


14 posted on 03/24/2023 2:16:18 PM PDT by smartymarty (How a mountain girl can love.)
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To: Gene Eric

Thank you friend.


15 posted on 03/24/2023 2:16:21 PM PDT by DoodleBob ( Gravity’s waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: CedarDave

Satan is always too clever by a half.


16 posted on 03/24/2023 2:18:03 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (America Owes Anita Bryant An Enormous Apology)
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To: CedarDave

He seems to forget that the funding for the pocket book he’s talking about comes from the taxpayers and that means that the taxpayers have the final say....recall every board that acts this way for inappropriate disposition of funds.


17 posted on 03/24/2023 2:18:15 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: CedarDave

Sanchez said, “So, this all boils down to parental rights being: They have the right to pick the system they want their kid to enter, but once they enter it, they cannot tell a public school how to teach their child or what to teach your child.
__________
In other words it’s coming down to this: Choose ye THIS day Whom ye will serve. God or the US Corporation.


18 posted on 03/24/2023 2:19:52 PM PDT by smartymarty (How a mountain girl can love.)
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To: CedarDave
Academia's attitude .. 07b7d6d64dff1eb8 .
19 posted on 03/24/2023 2:31:16 PM PDT by cuz1961 (USCGR Veteran )
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To: CedarDave

Thanks got the update.

I have a friend, usually apolitical, but he is a great father and loves his kids more than anything, and he is absolutely furious over this.


20 posted on 03/24/2023 2:36:54 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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