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Ukraine Telegram Channel with inside source in the OP Zelensky being forced to negotiate
Ukrainian Telegram Channel ^ | November 11, 2022 | Ukrainian Telegram Channel

Posted on 11/20/2022 9:42:26 AM PST by Cathi

Resident ⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside Office of the President is disappointed by the Western reaction to the rocket attack on Poland and attributes this to the fact that Britain is gradually starting to exit the Ukrainian case, leaving the main place of the United States. This is due, first of all, to a set of internal problems that allow London to have limited participation and support for Kyiv, which is clearly not enough for Ukraine.

Resident ⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside Our source in the OP said that all public gifts to Ukraine from British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak were just a veil that hid the real purpose of the visit. At a meeting with Volodymyr Zelensky, the British Prime Minister urged the Office of the President to resume peace talks with the Kremlin. Sunak said that Britain can no longer be the main actor in military support for Ukraine and the #Sullivan_formula needs to be implemented .

Resident ⚡️⚡️⚡️#InsideOur source in the OP said that the Biden Administration requires the Office of the President to return to the negotiation process with the Kremlin, and the #Sullivan_formula , which was prepared by Washington, should be taken as a basis. The main requirement of the United States is that the initiative to implement the #Sullivan_formula should come publicly from Zelensky, and not from the West. Bankova understands that such actions will destroy the image of the President, who declared the unacceptability of any negotiations with the Kremlin before the withdrawal of Russian troops from Ukraine.

Resident ⚡️⚡️⚡️#InsideOur source in the OP said that the Biden Administration demanded that the Office of the President resume the negotiation process with the Kremlin, Bankova received the main drafts of the #Sullivan_formula two weeks ago and should make her proposals. The director of the CIA did not come to Kyiv in vain, he handed Zelensky daddy with all the offshore accounts of the functionaries of the Office of the President and demanded to stop playing with Washington. William Burns warned Andriy Yermak that all data on the corruption schemes of the Big Construction / theft of humanitarian cargo / the development of Western aid will be transferred to the NABU and independent journalists.

Resident When the White House and the Kremlin simultaneously refute negotiations on Ukraine without Ukraine, then we should seriously think about what game Washington is playing? Especially after the leaks in the media that Sullivan discussed drafting his formula with Patrushev for several weeks.

Russia denied discussing with the Americans the topic of negotiations with Ukraine.

"No, there is simply nothing to talk about Ukraine with them," Ryabkov said, answering the question whether contacts with the United States are planned on Ukraine.

According to him, if the Ukrainian theme arises in contacts, then "in the genre of mutual direction of signals."

"Dialogue, let alone negotiations, simply cannot take place, given the radical opposition of positions," said the Deputy Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation.

Resident ⚡️⚡️⚡️#Inside Our source in the OP said that the Office of the President received a new ultimatum from the Kremlin, if the negotiation process does not resume in November, then the entire energy system of Ukraine will be destroyed.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: negotiations; threats; unitedstates; zelensky

1 posted on 11/20/2022 9:42:26 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Cathi

Spin machines do have a red-line, y’know.


2 posted on 11/20/2022 9:49:23 AM PST by Chad C. Mulligan (CNN)
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To: Cathi
LOL!

The Piano Man will dance to the tune of his Western puppeteers.

3 posted on 11/20/2022 9:53:54 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Cathi
The Russians:

We've lost interest.


4 posted on 11/20/2022 9:56:50 AM PST by kiryandil (put yer vote in the box, chump. HARHARHARHAR)
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To: Cathi

Russia is increasingly desperate to get out of a war they claim to be “winning.”

Are they willing to surrender Crimea yet, because that is the only way they get out of this.


5 posted on 11/20/2022 9:58:22 AM PST by Renfrew
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To: Cathi

They should have forced him to negotiate back in February. Would have avoided all this death and destruction. Not to mention Billions of dollars spent and will have to be spent in the future. You tax dollars at work.


6 posted on 11/20/2022 10:02:01 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: Renfrew

“Are they willing to surrender Crimea yet, because that is the only way they get out of this.”

It’s amazing the crazy ideas one can find on freerepublic. Not only wrong, but wrong headed. Start to finish.

Completely wrong.


7 posted on 11/20/2022 10:10:02 AM PST by Chunga85 (An arrogant govt combined with an ignorant population is a recipe for disaster.)
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To: kiryandil

“The Piano Man will dance to the tune of his Western puppeteers.”
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Our method of trying to control the dramatic, ignorant performer is always to threaten to disclose dirt to our complicit media as a pressure tactic.

Do you remember how when Zelensky got out of line and ordered the hit on Dugina our Deep State got so angry they leaked to the New York Times.

Apparently this time the threatened leak: “The director of the CIA did not come to Kyiv in vain, he handed Zelensky daddy with all the offshore accounts of the functionaries of the Office of the President and demanded to stop playing with Washington. William Burns warned Andriy Yermak that all data on the corruption schemes of the Big Construction / theft of humanitarian cargo / the development of Western aid will be transferred to the NABU and independent journalists.”

Now we will have to see who Zelensky is more afraid of...our CIA or the neo-nazi’s who have threatened to take him out if he capitulates.

Slavyangrad, [11/19/2022 5:30 AM]
🇷🇺Dmitry Medvedev:

The clumsy attempts to shift the blame for the bombardment of Poland to our country have not been accepted by anyone, not even the most inveterate Russophobes, the Poles. And this is an important symptom:

1. Everyone is sick and tired of the Kiev regime. Especially the neurotic Zelensky, who is constantly inflaming passions, whining, bawling, and extorting more and more handouts in money and arms. He behaves like a hysterical child with developmental problems.

2. The US, NATO, and the EU do not want an eventual break with Russia, which is fraught with the risk of World War III. Hence, there are more and more attempts to coddle and talk sense into Kiev and push it out of negotiations.

3. Zelensky does not need negotiations for quite obvious petty reasons. Moreover, they are very dangerous for him, as we have already said. After all, if he does not recognise the reality of Ukraine’s collapse, there is no point in sitting down at the table. But if he admits it, he will be killed by his own nationalists, who are in league with the army’s top brass. And whom he is frightened out of his wits. Zugzwang.


8 posted on 11/20/2022 10:24:16 AM PST by Cathi
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1. Everyone is sick and tired of the Kiev regime. Especially the neurotic Zelensky, who is constantly inflaming passions, whining, bawling, and extorting more and more handouts in money and arms. He behaves like a hysterical child with developmental problems.

I had to chuckle reading that.

9 posted on 11/20/2022 10:40:46 AM PST by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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There can be no negotiations because neither side will believe the other.

Russia has enormous quantities of oil and more natural gas than any other country in the world. They have their own central bank that can create money, just like the Fed.

Ukraine was the poorest country in Europe, and still is. The difference now vs then is Europe is offering easy immigration, and it will be taken by any Ukrainians with gumption. The ones with courage to uproot and go somewhere else where they and their families might get rich.

The ones that stay will be the fearful ones with no gumption. They aren’t going to form any sort of resistance. They will just be glad to get a job in their own neighborhood.

The way this ends is a Ukraine military coup. They will murder all CIA and MI6 operatives in the country, before those murder them. They will make peace deals with their military school classmates from the Russian side.

And that will be that.


10 posted on 11/20/2022 10:55:14 AM PST by Owen (ALL)
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To: Cathi

Cut off the weapons and Z goes to the negotiating table right away. This is Biden’s war.


11 posted on 11/20/2022 10:56:33 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (The only way to secure your own future is to create it yourself.)
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To: Cathi

You know as well as anybody that if Yermak/Zelinski even attempt to negotiate on any terms other than Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, they will be shot before the ink is dry ...


12 posted on 11/20/2022 11:04:41 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: SaxxonWoods

But, can Biden withstand another Afghanistan failure. The administration NEEDS this to appear to be a Ukrainian initiative. It NEEDS to look like we stood with Ukraine until the bitter end.

But, Zelensky won’t survive initiating negotiations.

Kind of a Catch 22.


13 posted on 11/20/2022 11:05:14 AM PST by Cathi
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To: PIF

“You know as well as anybody that if Yermak/Zelinski even attempt to negotiate on any terms other than Russia out of Ukraine and Crimea, they will be shot before the ink is dry ...”
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Well for the very FIRST time I actually agree with you.


14 posted on 11/20/2022 11:07:33 AM PST by Cathi
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To: McGruff

This made me chuckle...:-)

💥💥💥Trump: “The problem is not that Putin is smart. Yes, he is smart! But it’s also that our leaders are stupid💥💥💥


15 posted on 11/20/2022 11:12:09 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Renfrew
Are they willing to surrender Crimea yet, because that is the only way they get out of this.

Excuse me, but you are delusional!!

If Russia is losing, can you imagine what winning would look like??!

RUSSIA BEFORE FEBRUARY 24, 2022!

RUSSIA TODAY!


16 posted on 11/20/2022 11:22:36 AM PST by icclearly
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https://t.me/s/rezident_ua/

Resident
⚡️⚡️⚡️#Insider
MI-6 transmitted new intelligence to the Office of the President that the first drone assembly plants are already ready in Russia and have begun production of drones. According to British intelligence, the Kremlin has transferred entire aviation and missile design bureaus for these purposes, which will improve Iranian models and establish their own production lines, one of these was the Lancet unmanned / loitering ammunition.

Resident
⚡️⚡️ ⚡️#Insider
MI6 passed intelligence to the Office of the President and the General Staff that the Kremlin wants to create a whole kind of unmanned troops in the Russian army . The military-industrial complex has been tasked with providing the Russian army with 1,000 unmanned aerial vehicles in the spring of 2023; for these purposes, the United Aircraft Corporation has allocated additional capacities and received a budget. On the territory of Russia, a joint design bureau was created with Iran, which transferred all the technologies, and in return the Kremlin will supply Tehran with fighter jets and air defense.


17 posted on 11/20/2022 11:27:54 AM PST by Cathi
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To: Renfrew

You should go back to whatever passed for reefer in 1965 and lay off the bomb-grade stuff.


18 posted on 11/20/2022 11:32:13 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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To: Cathi
NATO fops and neocon wankers clearly panicking.

The best deal hohos could get at this point would be very much worse than what they could have had in April or May. Best Zelenski could hope for personally would probably be a 24-hour head-start.

19 posted on 11/20/2022 11:36:04 AM PST by ganeemead (Ukraine/Zelensky: Adding an element of chutzpah to ordinary Nazism...)
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