Posted on 08/23/2022 11:12:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin
And if those happen to be the first digits of a phone number? Address? Some other random data? Well too bad so sad. And let’s keep in mind your demand was to ban ALL financial data. So you also want to stop:
Social Security numbers, which have a standardized length but not much else
Bank account numbers, which have no standardization at all
Check routing code, somewhat standardized
Heck technically your full birth name is financial data, and your DOB.
How in the world are you going to block all that and have computers actually useful for ANYTHING. You’ve basically just declared the OS can’t be used by any business anywhere to do anything that businesses want computers to do.
It’s a dumb idea. Get over it. Get over yourself.
“That means BLOCKED. Not just generating a popup.”
Nudged...Coerced...but not “BLOCKED”
I now know I’m riffling lots of feathers, but if I can’t get things done on my Windows PC in a reasonable time frame I will make my displeasure known.
Really important too: After recovery is done, change all your online passwords as there is the possibility that those have been captured by the malware and could be used by bad actors in the future. I wish I had better news for you.
“You’ve basically just declared the OS can’t be used by any business anywhere to do anything that businesses want computers to do.”
I’ve described a purchase transaction from start to finish.
My system has the great advantage of allowing small businesses to avoid the massive credit card number compromise risk by simply never giving them a credit card number, only a payment verification message.
Same here ... I have a drawer full of unused Windoze install CDs complete with license data. If I need a new system I check out the Dell Outlet for a deal. When it arrives I throw the Windoze stuff in the drawer and proceed to load Ububtu or OpenSuse.
There are very few Windoze apps that don’t have functional siblings on linux. And most of them are free!
“Microsoft needs to force credit card (and other financial) account information off” == BLOCKED
You’re not ruffling feathers, you’re announcing to the world you don’t know what you’re talking about.
“This also explains why your PC is slow and running hot.”
It does so on an intermittent basis.
A bitcoin miner would tend to run constantly and at a 50% CPU usage rate as to not be too noticeable.
I have backed up my PC totally, but I am afraid to rebuild it.
But you’re ignoring what else happens on computers. If you’re BLOCKING financial data you are BLOCKING their usefulness to the business world.
No, your system means a small business CAN’T be run on the computer. And frankly, your system turns someone’s phone number into financial data. So you’re BLOCKING that too.
Just an educated guess, however the browser behavior is what I have seen many times from fake AV programs.
“And let’s keep in mind your demand was to ban ALL financial data.”
If the PC is not secure, then maybe financial data should not be on it.
And if the PC is secure, then no security updates would be needed.
And now we get back to what I said in my first post to you:
Any computer that can have legitimate stuff done on it can have illegitimate stuff done on it. Total security means completely useless.
This is why application writers need to be smart. This is why we encrypt large quantities of data. Because we understand that info can ALWAYS be accessed by some other process or user, so we make it so only we can use the data we stored (well, hopefully, encryption can be broken).
You don’t gain security by making the OS guess as to whether or not the user is entering sensitive information and then not allowing it. You gain security with good coding practices that remembers you’re not the only thing on the computer and nothing else can be trusted.
“No, your system means a small business CAN’T be run on the computer.”
My system would work for BIG RIVER BOOKS, and for small business.
My system eliminates the risk of having to pay thousand$ or even million$ in compensation to credit card companies because the small business’s database got hacked and credit card numbers got stolen.
My system is small business friendly - and small business safe.
In my system, small (and large) businesses never see a credit card number, only a purchase payment verification from their bank.
And small businesses can check their account balance (by existing means) to see that it jives with sales before shipping out product.
“Total security means completely useless.”
You’re not likely to run a bank’s IT department with that attitude.
“You don’t gain security by making the OS guess as to whether or not the user is entering sensitive information and then not allowing it.”
The mobile phone app (not the personal computer OS) would make an estimate - and the would-be purchaser would get the final say by tapping on PAY, on their mobile phone.
No, it wouldn’t. Your system would Big River Books wouldn’t be able to run any financial software on the computer. Including their own accounting software.
Your system renders computers useless for all business.
Actually I work on software that’s used by almost every bank in America. It’s not an attitude, it’s REALITY. Like I explained in the part you didn’t bother to quote:
Anything that can be done legitimately
can be done illegitimately
That’s a simple fact everybody in the IT world understands.
Right, so now your phone number is financial information, which you’re not allowing to be entered into the computer, so we can’t send the payment request to your phone.
And given how many ways phones TALK to the outside world, if you’re thinking there’s any world where they’re more secure than computers you’re an idiot. You’re wanting us to take financial information off a more secure platform and only put it on a significantly LESS secure platform.
Yup, but every single person and business that continues to use windows, continues to like that evil bastard's pockets.
Technically, under my system you still can enter your credit card number, after getting a pop-up and dismissing it.
The users remain in ultimate control.
It’s their choice to take the risk, after fair warning.
No it can’t. AGAIN, YOUR WORDS:
Microsoft needs to force credit card (and other financial) account information off Windows PCs
No financial info on the PC at all. No user choice. THAT’S YOUR SYSTEM. OWN IT. And admit it’s stupid.
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